Omega HP3 Valve

[jbravo103]

Does anyone have the HP3 valve on their Omega tank? I understand the HP3 only has a male foster port, which is used for both output (filling your gun) and input (recharging your tank). I’m curious if there is any kind of flow restrictor on this setup. I understand that when you buy a new tank with the standard valve, it also comes with a “no-kink” hose and there is a flow restrictor built into the hose. This allows a more controlled fill to your gun. The CF tank can still be recharged at unrestricted rate, either by using a different hose or perhaps by removing the restrictor. Can anyone clarify this?

 

[JCD]

Personal experience only... a flow restrictor is part of the valve, not the hose. Not saying that their cant be an add on restrictor but I've never seen one. If you have info otherwise I'd really like to see it. (please). I don't have the Omega setup but I do have the 'slow flow' valve that Joe B sells. Slower gun fill, yes, I suppose. Never noticed any impact on tank fill times (from the compressor) compared to the older tank. All with the exact same hose. And yes, the tanks I have output to a male foster (pre hose). But that's just different screw in valve adapter, different than what the one the hose would screw directly to. The hose will have different ends on the tank side between the 2. (I have pics if it help, might take till tomorrow thouigh, my day is about done)

I've had the tanks and the compressor for 10 years and what you describe might be new info for me. Or not.... 

 

[jbravo103]

Most of what I attempted to descibe above came from an AoA video about Omega tanks.

https://youtu.be/W3AkALEx0DI

Based on the video it soumds like the flow restrictor is part of the fill hose assembly.

 

[Humdinger]

Does anyone have the HP3 valve on their Omega tank? I understand the HP3 only has a male foster port, which is used for both output (filling your gun) and input (recharging your tank). I’m curious if there is any kind of flow restrictor on this setup. I understand that when you buy a new tank with the standard valve, it also comes with a “no-kink” hose and there is a flow restrictor built into the hose. This allows a more controlled fill to your gun. The CF tank can still be recharged at unrestricted rate, either by using a different hose or perhaps by removing the restrictor. Can anyone clarify this?

There is no flow restrictor with the Omega HP3 valve. The Omega tank set I have has a flow restrictor inside of the DIN300 male connector that has the hose attached. The restrictor looks like a set screw and can be unthreaded and removed from the DIN300 male fitting using an Allen key. In the AoA video, the restrictor is described at 4:19 in the video.

 

[Bob_O]

I had the HP3 valve on the Omega 74.....no restrictions in or out. My tank was slam filled once, we're talking from 3k to 4k in about 3 seconds.

What's more important is to crack open the valve very slowly when you're filling the gun so you don't slam fill it.

 

[jbravo103]

Thanks for all the good info guys. I’ll probably go with the standard valve instead of HP3 so I get the flow restrictor in the hose assembly (inside the male DIN connector) as Humdinger described. This should allow controlled filling and reduce the chance of “slam filling” my gun.

BTW - Your vids are great Bob_O. Thanks for sharing.

 

[pooterjoe]

Humdinger, l’m confused. I had a Omega Supercharger. I was able to fill my Omega standard 75cf tank but after filling the tank And the compressor shutting down I closed the compressor and purged the tank. A short purge appeared to empty the fill line. But there is no air in the tank. I put a dead head on the tank fill line and there is no reading that air is in the tank. Could you advise as to why there is no air in the tank for filling my guns? Could I have a defective Omega Tank?

I being frustrated with the Supercharger and not wanting to be involved with the complicated rebuilding decided to purchase a Daystate 110v and also purchased a Omega Patriot tank. I will be attempting to fill the standard Omega tank utilizing the Daystate compressor and hopefully I can realize a filled tank that will allow me to fill my PCP guns. I have six Top Quality PCP guns and I really want to put them to use having filled them with air. 

Your apparent Airgun knowledge and input would be much appreciated.

 

[Humdinger]

pooterjoe, from what you describe it sounds like you didn't open the valve on the tank when you filled it with the Omega Supercharger. A purge of the air line wouldn't empty a full tank in less than a few minutes which you would hear as the air rushed out of the valve. When you say you closed the compressor and purged the tank do you mean you opened the moisture drain on the compressor to allow the moisture to purge? If you opened the tank valve you would purge the Omega tank but it would take awhile if it was actually full. It should have taken a Supercharger over an hour for a top off from 3 to 4.5K in a 75cf tank and 3.5 hours from empty.

It should take about 90 minutes to fill both of your Omega 75cf tanks from empty using the Daystate LC-110. The first step to save the air in your tanks after a fill session is to close the tank valve before you purge the air in the hose line using the bleed valve on the tank.