AEA opinions on aea guns

Here's a recent picture of my .457 and my .30
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I have two AEA's, one is a .25 cal Challenger Standard and the other is a 9mm/357 big bore bullpup. My opinion is they are made very well but use very low-quality ancillary components. All of the small parts are questionable at best. Things such as O-rings, valve pins, and springs seem to have low quality control. I really like my .25 cal. Its light weight, powerful and accurate. I'd say the build quality of the action is better than my AV Avenger. The AEA is nicely finished aluminum where Avenger is plastic covered pot-metal (some sort of zinc casting alloy). But with the low amount of shooting I do, I was shocked that the hammer spring wore out!
Its kind of amazing. The fit and finish is quite good! But then they make it iffy by using low quality components.
I also don't think the distributors are doing a good job of keeping spare parts in stock (depending on the part). I would have had to order the hammer spring I needed from Europe if I wasn't able to adapt something else.
I like the guns but its only because I love to tinker and build things. If you are not that then I wouldn't recommend them.
Here some stocks I made for mine.
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The term 'very well made' includes all parts, assembly, and quality control leaving you with a perfectly functioning gun for a very long time. Poor QC and inferior parts don't get to be part of that. I also would not be surprised to find that the breech block isn't square either. Has anyone tied putting one in a mill with a measuring head to see if it's true/square?

Anyways, I'm glad you like your guns and it's good to know they've been trouble free.
 
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If you handled one you might see the appeal.

I have a .22 converted to bolt action and it’s one of my favorites
I also have a semi hp that I also had “ tuned “ and upgraded parts known to be the weak link in the design/ parts ( valve pin & magazines )
Both are a total pleasure to shoot and light, powerful and accurate.
They feel pretty good. The machining on mine are top shelf.

They do require some extra attention in semi. Once sorted though they rock
 
If you handled one you might see the appeal.

I have a .22 converted to bolt action and it’s one of my favorites
I also have a semi hp that I also had “ tuned “ and upgraded parts known to be the weak link in the design/ parts ( valve pin & magazines )
Both are a total pleasure to shoot and light, powerful and accurate.
They feel pretty good. The machining on mine are top shelf.

They do require some extra attention in semi. Once sorted though they rock
this is what I’m saying. The guns are 90% there. If you ever been on an engineering project you know that last little bit is always the hardest to sort out. Its why I don’t recommend these guns to someone who is not technically inclined or know what they are getting into. You might get a good one out of the box, but who knows.
 
understated..I don't ever want to have a aea even if it was free.. they are so bad there's no degassing screw.. might as well have a loaded gun that doesn't work correctly and will fire at it's will..
definitely not safe..
just my opinion and if I ever get the idea of getting one someone needs to make sure I don't..
Mark
Turn your air pressure gauge 1/2 turn and it will degas your gun. I own several PCP's and none have a degassing screw. You are right if you have a gun that will fire at will you better send it back to the manufacturer. AEA's have a removable magazine. If you have an AD that fired projectile, who's fault is that. Gun safety always takes precedent when you pick one up.
 
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Turn your air pressure gauge 1/2 turn and it will degas your gun. I own several PCP's and none have a degassing screw. You are right if you have a gun that will fire at will you better send it back to the manufacturer. AEA's have a removable magazine. If you have an AD that fired projectile, who's fault is that. Gun safety always takes precedent when you pick one up.
I think there is people who just want to hate on something.
 
I have two AEA's, one is a .25 cal Challenger Standard and the other is a 9mm/357 big bore bullpup. My opinion is they are made very well but use very low-quality ancillary components. All of the small parts are questionable at best. Things such as O-rings, valve pins, and springs seem to have low quality control. I really like my .25 cal. Its light weight, powerful and accurate. I'd say the build quality of the action is better than my AV Avenger. The AEA is nicely finished aluminum where Avenger is plastic covered pot-metal (some sort of zinc casting alloy). But with the low amount of shooting I do, I was shocked that the hammer spring wore out!
Its kind of amazing. The fit and finish is quite good! But then they make it iffy by using low quality components.
I also don't think the distributors are doing a good job of keeping spare parts in stock (depending on the part). I would have had to order the hammer spring I needed from Europe if I wasn't able to adapt something else.
I like the guns but its only because I love to tinker and build things. If you are not that then I wouldn't recommend them.
Here some stocks I made for mine.
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View attachment 503422View attachment 503431I completely agree with the metal spring issues. I think the springs in the mags last much longer if you do not keep them loaded. I notice on the hammer springs that they hold up much better but I have springs with different diameter wire. Also the sear seems to be a bit soft. I noticed every sear that I have looked at has a dent where the hammer catches on them. This causes a harder trigger pull. Spare parts. Seems they get a boat load in sell that stuff and then wait for another boat load. I sent the Pellet shop the other day a note asking why they run out of perishable items so often. Magazines, springs, etc. I recently had both my Terminator mags go bad sitting in my car in 80 degree weather. They elongated the center hole in the wheel causing them to be worthless. No parts for them, no magazines for them, no idea when they will have them, and no idea how to cobble something together that they do have, to make something work. I purchased 2 35 cal Terminator mags which they seem to always have plenty of, took the indexing wheels out and placed them in the 30 cal housing. Worked fine. So for the money I like AEA, especially used which you often get at half price. But they have some issues to work out. But they seem focused on new guns instead of making their old ones better.
 
I think there is people who just want to hate on something.
No doubt the AEA line is controversial. But repeating what you have heard on the internet without ever touching one drives off new customers and devalues the AEA guns many people own. There is a rumor that says AEA guns can go off on their own. I have never been able to replicate that. The safety on an AEA HP is robust and a positive lock on the sear. They go off when you pull the trigger and the person that reported this failure admitted so. They are not perfect but for what you pay you get a lot of potential. I first purchase was an AEA HP TD. I shot over 4 k rounds before the poppet broke. Sounded like it went full auto but not one round was fired. It simply was the noise it makes when the plastic valve breaks and then oscillates as air escapes. Bought a used SS that had less than 150 rnds out of it. Poppet broke the same day I received it. Made a couple out of PEEK and they have been going for over a year now. My next purchase on an airgun will be 45 or 50 cal and it probably will be and AEA. Bang for buck they are hard to beat.
 
honestly I wanted a aea but I worked on a friend's that was having trouble.. and honestly it would fire on its own.. the action is machine wrong and I never could figure out exactly how but it would pull pellets or skirts back and drop them down in the trigger group.. now if you think about pellets or pieces of pellets in the trigger group you can understand how it could fire on its own..yes safety is important, that's why I didn't work on it in the shop with air in the tank.. keep pointed in a safe direction and it's fine..
so if you look at the breach on most guns the bolt is large and then turned down for the probe.. and normally the action would either have a smaller hole for the probe or a bushing.. just that simple change in design would keep pellets out of the trigger group..
I'd love someone to explain how a pellet can go from the magazine into the chamber and then back out through the magazine and through the large bolt area down into the trigger group..
it's quite possible that they actually have others that are good, but after dealing with that,if I was to get a aea it would never be a hpss..it would be the side lever.. there's not even a bolt hold open catch..
Mark
 
That is generally caused by one of two things. Week spring in magazine not allowing full index before bolt slams home or bolt bounce caused by too much air recoiling bolt. In both cases it jams the pellet onto the bolt probe falling off inside the receiver. They are trouble getting out. I cut a plastic dowel rod to size and insert it on the left hand notch in receiver to hold bolt open. Dental tool helps with removal. I purchased an SS that did this and the owner grew tired of it. It was week magazine springs causing this one to fail. Here is two groups I shot today at 50 yds with it using AEA's new pellets 15 and 18 gr. Upper left and upper right, 3/4" dots.

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Yeah, last I looked the talon only went up to .25, shame. It could easily be made In larger calibers.
I have a TalonP and yes, it is only available in .25, but honestly, I think it is near perfect in that caliber and does everything I need it to do.
If I were to upgrade it, I might go for a .257 slug barrel, but more likely would just go with a Texan instead. I like my TalonP too much as it is.

Never tried an AEA gun, All the bad comments about them turned me away from the brand
 
Here's a recent picture of my .457 and my .30View attachment 503487View attachment 503488
Beautiful. I’m not big into bullpups but the 30 is looking handsome as hell.
How important is having a magazine vs being single shot to you?
I would prefer it to have a magazine for sure. Semi isn’t that important to me though but a magazine helps. Ironically I have been trying to decide between the talon p and the Rex p lately even though they are both single shot lol
 
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I have a semiautomatic AEA .30 Terminator. It has worked flawless since day 1. Bought it through Bintac and it has upgraded dual tanks (850cc). Not the most accurate rifle I own, my Niksan Ozark holds that title, but for shear knockdown power it is a monster. Pushes .30 48.50 Grain Hatsan Vortex Strike at over 1000FPS. Damn thing will rattle your teeth when you fire it. Which is the only detractor, tough to fire it multiple times on target.

I have a feeling that those above with the heavily negative views are working from aged data. I know a couple others that have AEA semi and bolt actions that are just as happy with their rifles as I am. I am quite sure those views were valid at one time but from what I've seen AEA has solved most of those quality issues.

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This is my HP max .457 that started as a .510. Could not get it to group with 10" or 22" barrel. Bought a .457 barrel kit and it shots so much better. I have a HP max .30 that is very accurate. Fingers crossed no problem.View attachment 503482
Sounds like you've got a bent barrel. I had two .510 barrels (factory and replacement), both were bent. But I made them better, and finally the groups were there. Not the greatest shooter, and shooting conditions were not perfect (freezing temps, wind gusts, shooting from knee), but 2 MOA @ 100 is real. A proper bench setup in summer weather would do 1 MOA, I'm sure. And now Huma-Air makes a proper regulator for this gun!


Having 600+ FPE in under $1k airgun delivered to your door, no license bullpoop, no nothing, is amazing.
 
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I have a semiautomatic AEA .30 Terminator. It has worked flawless since day 1. Bought it through Bintac and it has upgraded dual tanks (850cc). Not the most accurate rifle I
I have a semiautomatic AEA .30 Terminator. It has worked flawless since day 1. Bought it through Bintac and it has upgraded dual tanks (850cc). Not the most accurate rifle I own, my Niksan Ozark holds that title, but for shear knockdown power it is a monster. Pushes .30 48.50 Grain Hatsan Vortex Strike at over 1000FPS. Damn thing will rattle your teeth when you fire it. Which is the only detractor, tough to fire it multiple times on target.

I have a feeling that those above with the heavily negative views are working from aged data. I know a couple others that have AEA semi and bolt actions that are just as happy with their rifles as I am. I am quite sure those views were valid at one time but from what I've seen AEA has solved most of those quality issues.

-- Matt
Matt my Terminator had ok accuracy but I had a FX 50.2 pellet recommended to me. Getting 965 fps out of it and at 50 yds shoots this type of group. I shot this group just before starting to type this result. You might want to try FX 50.2 grain pellets. The bore on the 30 cal are .303. I was shooting .303 NSA Slugs but the FX 50.2 gave much better accuracy. You might want to give them a try.

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Matt my Terminator had ok accuracy but I had a FX 50.2 pellet recommended to me. Getting 965 fps out of it and at 50 yds shoots this type of group. I shot this group just before starting to type this result. You might want to try FX 50.2 grain pellets. The bore on the 30 cal are .303. I was shooting .303 NSA Slugs but the FX 50.2 gave much better accuracy. You might want to give them a try.

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Not too worried, matter of perspective, half dollar vs dime. I really only use the rifle for Raccoons and they are much bigger than a half dollar. Tough buggers though, nailed them center chest (upright on two legs), knocked them over and had them get up and run a ways before I could get a 2nd shot lined up.

Is your bottle a mod and is that a plenum?