AEA opinions on aea guns

[DonEnzone]

ehh i think bullpups are kinda ugly. but really its super dependable?? how many shots per fill do you get? i was thinking about the bintac t9 too

Don't bother with the T9. Mine has been a jam-o-matic ever since I got it, and I have heard similar stories all around. I would definitely wait until there is a fix for that. So far no one seems to have one, and there is still no manual for this thing.

 

[Mike_Lenardon]

ehh i think bullpups are kinda ugly. but really its super dependable?? how many shots per fill do you get? i was thinking about the bintac t9

I bought the gun to hunt/pest at a friend's egg farm. They had a problem with foxes and an occasional coyote. Other family members took over when my friend passed. Reg is now at 125 bar, power adjuster is around 2/3 to 3/4 and still flings Baracudas over 900 fps. I have not filled the air tube to max in quite a while. The air tube is huge in my opinion. I would get bored with shooting it if I filled it all the way. And yes it's super dependable...nock on wood...never had a problem.

The T9...I haven't heard much good about them

 

[Arkansas_Airgunner]

I wanna say it was around $80? If you do it, I recommend having them use hardened steel like a wrench would be made out of. Taking the rifle apart isn't too difficult. There's pins that hold the sear parts in place that are a bit of a pain to push out. Here's pics of my broken one:View attachment 508137View attachment 508138View attachment 508139

Thanks. I will dig into mine in the next few days to figure it out. Appreciate the response. Thanx again.

 

[357cal]

I would do a lot of research before deciding on a model. I have a challenger big9 357 and besides having the worst trigger ever put on a gun it does what it is supposed to do. Only aea I’ve owned. Some models seem good others very problematic. I would avoid anything semi auto from them. They seem quite problematic. A good YouTube channel to watch for aea success and failure is macabespeed.

i also have the 357 big bore. I took off some of the lead ( trigger) and polished it. I have had mine going on 4 years and i have had 1 o-ring go bad with heavy use

 

[30clipslinger]

Don't bother with the T9. Mine has been a jam-o-matic ever since I got it, and I have heard similar stories all around. I would definitely wait until there is a fix for that. So far no one seems to have one, and there is still no manual for this thing.

Oh God. Not the T9 too!?!?!?! For heaven's sakes do they have any guns that are reliable?? I was really hoping on the T9 for a future buy, but i think im gonna have to wait longer to see if they fix some of these issues.

I bought the gun to hunt/pest at a friend's egg farm. They had a problem with foxes and an occasional coyote. Other family members took over when my friend passed. Reg is now at 125 bar, power adjuster is around 2/3 to 3/4 and still flings Baracudas over 900 fps. I have not filled the air tube to max in quite a while. The air tube is huge in my opinion. I would get bored with shooting it if I filled it all the way. And yes it's super dependable...nock on wood...never had a problem.

The T9...I haven't heard much good about them

Jeez this is the only company i have found where its literally like half of their stock is trash and the other half is solid. Almost wish it was either one or the other hahahaha! Its nuts i swear if AEA got their crap together in the QC side of things; I genuinely believe they would have taken over the industry. That kind of power and accuracy at that price point. Not to mention how innovative they are. Its too bad really

 

[DonEnzone]

Oh God. Not the T9 too!?!?!?! For heaven's sakes do they have any guns that are reliable?? I was really hoping on the T9 for a future buy, but i think im gonna have to wait longer to see if they fix some of these issues.

Jeez this is the only company i have found where its literally like half of their stock is trash and the other half is solid. Almost wish it was either one or the other hahahaha! Its nuts i swear if AEA got their crap together in the QC side of things; I genuinely believe they would have taken over the industry. That kind of power and accuracy at that price point. Not to mention how innovative they are. Its too bad really

To be fair, there are people who have little to no issues with the T9... so it seems to be a gamble. If someone can find a fix for the ones that don't work properly it'll be a worthy purchase.

Im not entirely sure what's going on with mine. But my best guess is that it has something to do with the timing of the bolt (it's too fast). Or, since it's direct blowback, maybe excess air from the chamber somehow misaligns the next pellet in the mag. Im not sure.

I just wish AEA/BinTac spent some more time and money on quality control. Both brands have lots of potential. Their designs are cool, and once in a while they do come out with a banger. The AEA Megalodon for example seems to be a huge success.

They should learn to take their time. They will crank out 5 or 6 different models in the same timespan it takes most other manufacturers to release 1 new model.

When it comes to their designs, they often take 1 step forward, and then 2 steps back again. For example, the BinTac S45 has a nifty magazine catch that prevents the mag from moving or falling out. That's a good idea. But then... they don't do the same for the T9. Like..
why?!

 

[Sicumj]

Boy I have to pay attention I didn't know they made the t9. That is a neat looking gun. I've tuned several HP's and Terminators. Typical you have a couple issues when they jam. Spring in mag is not fast enough to index or bolt bounce allowing another pellet that the bolt catches. This is how I would go about checking the t9. First I would find some lighter projectiles and see if that helps. If it does you most likely need to trim the spring a half coil or give the carousel another turn. If it is bolt bounce you have to reduce the back pressure that is hitting the bolt to slow it down. This is done in two ways. You can plug some of the holes at the end of the barrel, (Empty 22 LR case work.), or you can move the cylinder that works the bolt, away from the end of the barrel. Now this is if it is like the other semi auto's I have seen. And thanks for bringing this to my attention. Thought I was done with airguns for awhile. ENABLERS!

 

[357cal]

I have 4 AEA's and shoot them all. On the HP's the weak link is the poppet valve and the magazines. They do require some tuning but then they shoot. Not a good first gun for someone I think. Some people have a lot of trouble with them that I just haven't experienced. They are simple made and robust IMO. I shoot one every day. The power and accuracy potential of the guns is what I like. Terminator trigger on mine is 4.5 lbs and shoots very well. Right at 108 ft lbs with 50.2 g. pellets. With all the dissatisfied people you can pick up used ones at good deals. Send it off to someone that tune them. I'm not sure if Motorhead tunes AEA's but Firewalker does or did.

I have had my 357 challenger 4 years now and 1000's of slugs shot from it, i had to replace 1 O-ring ,340 fpe

 

[DonEnzone]

Boy I have to pay attention I didn't know they made the t9. That is a neat looking gun. I've tuned several HP's and Terminators. Typical you have a couple issues when they jam. Spring in mag is not fast enough to index or bolt bounce allowing another pellet that the bolt catches. This is how I would go about checking the t9. First I would find some lighter projectiles and see if that helps. If it does you most likely need to trim the spring a half coil or give the carousel another turn. If it is bolt bounce you have to reduce the back pressure that is hitting the bolt to slow it down. This is done in two ways. You can plug some of the holes at the end of the barrel, (Empty 22 LR case work.), or you can move the cylinder that works the bolt, away from the end of the barrel. Now this is if it is like the other semi auto's I have seen. And thanks for bringing this to my attention. Thought I was done with airguns for awhile. ENABLERS!

That is helpful advice. The back pressure may indeed be a little too high. The bolt does bounce quite agressively. Not enough to double-feed or anything, but it is quite severe (see video).

Unlike the Terminator, the T9 does not use a piston inside the barrel shroud. It's direct blowback from the chamber. I did a quick test with FX Hybrids today, which are approx 12 grains lighter than the ammo I was using before. And it did not jam. So it does seem like the projectile weight affects the mechanism. It's a bit of a shame though, because I was hoping to shoot with the heavier stuff.

Any idea how I can reduce the pressure in a direct blowback system like this one? I'd rather not mess with the bolt spring, since there are no spare parts available for this thing right now.

 

[Sicumj]

Without seeing a schematic no I would not have a clue how to reduce the air pressure. But using lighter weight projectiles may indicate not enough spring pressure in your magazine. I have clipped half a coil and rebent the spring to get a tighter wind. You may want some extra springs prior to trying this. All my mags on my HP's have been trimmed and wind tighter now. The heavier the projectiles the slower the magazine will react. Your spring tension is fixed and probably designed for a certain weight. I would try that next in the progression of trying to get it to run. You can also go to a heavier wire and wind your own. These springs are not hard to make. Your magazines are spring loaded correct? The bolt bounce is not severe but maybe a small spacer on the hammer spring would stiffen it up some. Of course it will shoot harder most likely.

 

[myfalconry]

Most if not al

Boy I have to pay attention I didn't know they made the t9. That is a neat looking gun. I've tuned several HP's and Terminators. Typical you have a couple issues when they jam. Spring in mag is not fast enough to index or bolt bounce allowing another pellet that the bolt catches. This is how I would go about checking the t9. First I would find some lighter projectiles and see if that helps. If it does you most likely need to trim the spring a half coil or give the carousel another turn. If it is bolt bounce you have to reduce the back pressure that is hitting the bolt to slow it down. This is done in two ways. You can plug some of the holes at the end of the barrel, (Empty 22 LR case work.), or you can move the cylinder that works the bolt, away from the end of the barrel. Now this is if it is like the other semi auto's I have seen. And thanks for bringing this to my attention. Thought I was done with airguns for awhile. ENABLERS!

l of the hammer bounce generated across Aea models is caused by weak inadequate springs. They wear and lose their tinsel strength very fast.

 

[myfalconry]

That is helpful advice. The back pressure may indeed be a little too high. The bolt does bounce quite agressively. Not enough to double-feed or anything, but it is quite severe (see video).

Unlike the Terminator, the T9 does not use a piston inside the barrel shroud. It's direct blowback from the chamber. I did a quick test with FX Hybrids today, which are approx 12 grains lighter than the ammo I was using before. And it did not jam. So it does seem like the projectile weight affects the mechanism. It's a bit of a shame though, because I was hoping to shoot with the heavier stuff.

Any idea how I can reduce the pressure in a direct blowback system like this one? I'd rather not mess with the bolt spring, since there are no spare parts available for this thing right now.

I’d try a heavier stronger bolt spring

 

[markhooper]

Turn your air pressure gauge 1/2 turn and it will degas your gun. I own several PCP's and none have a degassing screw. You are right if you have a gun that will fire at will you better send it back to the manufacturer. AEA's have a removable magazine. If you have an AD that fired projectile, who's fault is that. Gun safety always takes precedent when you pick one up.

yes I was referring to a aea hpss 22 that I was working on for a friend.. the action is unfortunately machined with a big hole all the way through where the probe is.. I'm assuming it was a lazy way to accommodate multiple calibers.. however it allows pellets to drop down into the trigger group and yes it fired on its own..at one point magazine got stuck in too.. but it was ok.. because of safety in having it pointed in a safe direction..
if you ever watch some videos of people who got hurt working on PCP guns charged, you might understand why I don't like to not have a degassing screw.. but like you said loosen the gauge..I just don't really like doing it with pressure.. just like I'm always worried about changing air tanks on my velox, I always point it in a safe direction in case it doesn't close off the valve..
I imagine that you don't have much problems with the bolt and side lever guns.. but the semi auto with a place for pellets to drop into the trigger group is a recipe for a problem..
Mark

 

[markhooper]

No doubt the AEA line is controversial. But repeating what you have heard on the internet without ever touching one drives off new customers and devalues the AEA guns many people own. There is a rumor that says AEA guns can go off on their own. I have never been able to replicate that. The safety on an AEA HP is robust and a positive lock on the sear. They go off when you pull the trigger and the person that reported this failure admitted so. They are not perfect but for what you pay you get a lot of potential. I first purchase was an AEA HP TD. I shot over 4 k rounds before the poppet broke. Sounded like it went full auto but not one round was fired. It simply was the noise it makes when the plastic valve breaks and then oscillates as air escapes. Bought a used SS that had less than 150 rnds out of it. Poppet broke the same day I received it. Made a couple out of PEEK and they have been going for over a year now. My next purchase on an airgun will be 45 or 50 cal and it probably will be and AEA. Bang for buck they are hard to beat.

I was repairing one for a friend.. when I got it apart there was the equivalent of 4 pellets in the trigger group and yes it fired in a safe direction without touching the trigger also noted it was only air once but it also was pellets once.. the main issue I had with it was the fact that they straight bored the bolt area with the probe..if they would have had a stepped bore, so the probe went through a hole it fit..or even a short plug to close off the trigger group.. because when the bolt cycle back it would sometimes drag a pellet or pellet skirt back and drop it into the trigger group..
Mark

 

[357cal]

More like the Yugo of the airgun world

Is that coming from an RTI chevet