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Our "Wannabe like Manabe" challenge ;-) 4/25/15

Hi Jed,
I use those targets too. I tend not to use the targets with lines bisecting the bullseye, since it is too easy to line up the target lines with the lines in the reticle to make sure you're on target
The target you shot is the one I prefer to shoot, and you did quite well....it's a little harder than the other one.
Love the way you did it without any kind of rests or bags....just a rolled up sweatshirt..love it
Thanks for posting your results to the shooting challenge, and I hope to see another!
Nice Shooting Jedediah
Mike
 
Mike would you share how exactly you practice indoors? (Obviously outdoor practice includes wind hold-off) ie, what aspects of shooting do you work on to improve accuracy/consistency? Trigger pull, follow-through, experimenting with different pellets, rest points, frequency of cleaning, etc?

Also noticed on your (excellent) target, there is slightly more horizontal than vertical stringing. Do you know why?

Thanks!

Kim
 
"Kim"Mike would you share how exactly you practice indoors? (Obviously outdoor practice includes wind hold-off) ie, what aspects of shooting do you work on to improve accuracy/consistency? Trigger pull, follow-through, experimenting with different pellets, rest points, frequency of cleaning, etc?

Also noticed on your (excellent) target, there is slightly more horizontal than vertical stringing. Do you know why?

Thanks!

Kim
Hello Kim
the horizontal stringing might have been caused by me hanging the target sideways when I shot it....You saw that??You have a real discerning eye!
To improve on my accuracy/consistency, I try to find a target where the bulls-eye is about the same diameter as the pellet's. In this case, I was trying to shoot out the center of a 1/4" circle. Shooting at such a small target helps me focus. Shooting at a number of targets..100...helps me stay focused...keeps me in the moment. Sure it's repetitive, but that's target shooting. And yes I do shoot all 100 in one sitting. I an not just trying to hit the target....I am trying for a dead-center shot every single time...practice with a purpose.
My trigger is set very light...around 7oz. During my practice sessions, I try to move just my trigger finger when taking the shot. My grip is light, like you would hold a bird. The rifle is not touching my shoulder. I adjust the aim by manipulating the rear bag
I make sure that I am consistent in my cheek meld...again a very light touch between the cheek and the rifle.
When I aim at a target, I usually try to hold the point of aim for a second or two to establish that position is stable. I exhale, keeping the target dead on sight's, and just before I inhale, I take the shot, then I hold that position until I can clearly see where the shot has landed...I guess this is what you mean by follow through.
I have tested a variety of pellets in my rifle, mainly because I wanted to see for myself which pellet was the best in my rifle. Pellets are cheap, so I bought a few here and a few there. I tried a lot. Each one I will subject to the same testing to see if it can be a precise pellet. The ones that pass the test in my indoor range are tested at a longer range to find the most stable pellet. I used to think that the JSB jumbo heavies in the 5.52 head were the best for my rifle, until I accidentally tried the same pellets in a different head size. Now I find that the best pellet for my rifle is the JSB jumbo heavies in a 5.53 head. Just a small amount of difference, but it was noticeable when you fire off 100 shots at 100 targets on the same piece of paper.
Rest points....not to sure what we are talking about here...I am only guessing you are asking where I place my bags when shooting....the answer is at it's balance point where it is at it's most stable ???
Frequency of cleaning...I usually pull a dry patch through the barrel after every 100 shots. I will use a wet patch(soaked in cleaner) after every 500 shots. I like to keep a clean barrel
I really hope this helps/make sense
Mike
 
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Great info Mike - thanks. But what I was aiming at is what, specifically, are you trying to learn by practicing? Anything with respect to form? Or is it just trying to discipline yourself to sit still and repeat calm shots for a long period? Is there anything you do differently if a shot deviates more than expected?

And though your shots are almost dead on, why more horizontal than vertical? I would think a perfectly sighted-in airgun indoors would shoot a randomly distributed shot pattern around the X (Gaussian, Normal, etc), with errors in "X" = errors in "Y".

Good stuff!

Kim
 
"Kim"Great info Mike - thanks. But what I was aiming at is what, specifically, are you trying to learn by practicing? Anything with respect to form? Or is it just trying to discipline yourself to sit still and repeat calm shots for a long period? Is there anything you do differently if a shot deviates more than expected?

And though your shots are almost dead on, why more horizontal than vertical? I would think a perfectly sighted-in airgun indoors would shoot a randomly distributed shot pattern around the X (Gaussian, Normal, etc), with errors in "X" = errors in "Y".

Good stuff!

Kim
Mainly it's to discipline myself. To be able to calm my mind to take 100 shots is a hard thing for me to do...Practicing the way that I do is my therapy. I am able to let my mind focus on only one thing...it's relaxes my anxious mind.

If a shot deviates from the expected I tend to count it as shooter's error. I flinched or breathed at the wrong moment. Rarely is the error due to pellet or a dirty barrel...it's mainly my fault. For matches, I do weigh my pellets and I do buy them in a specific head size to try to eliminate variable that would effect my shooting.
Can't explain the horizontal stringing....Guess it's just the way I shoot???
Hope to see a target from yourself one of these days...give it a try and tell me what you experienced.
Mike

Mike
 
Mike, that is some awesome shooting, and when I hold my head sideways to look at your target, it's even more awesome.
So, you hang your target sideways and shoot number 91 through 1 first and work your way down from there 92 to 2 and so forth?
My gawd, why can't I do that? LOL! I'm talking about the precision!!!!!!
Hope you have a great father's day and take it easy on those fellas Sunday ;-)
 
"CampFussell"Mike, that is some awesome shooting, and when I hold my head sideways to look at your target, it's even more awesome. You're too funny...Thanks Jimmy
So, you hang your target sideways and shoot number 91 through 1 first and work your way down from there 92 to 2 and so forth? Yep...exactly so
My gawd, why can't I do that? LOL! I'm talking about the precision!!!!!!
Hope you have a great father's day and take it easy on those fellas Sunday ;-). NO MERCY!!! 😈😈😈
Hope you have a Great Father's Day too
Peace and Chicken Grease
Mike
 
"Coldking"Another great looking 100! Hope you score a win this Sunday Mike.
I'll try to do the 100 if time allows---- 
got my Silhouette Match tomorrow - and I hope work doesn't get in the way of that--
peace and 100 shot Grease
CK
Thanks CK
Good luck at your Silhouettes match. Hope you take them all down!
I'll let you know what happens on Sunday
Mike
 
Thanks Mike

If your target was hung rotated 90*, I think the slight stringing was vertical.

I've not tried this type of target yet.

Last weekend I had the opportunity to practice at Open Grove benchrest range with some pros. This is a target shot with my (then) one day old HM1000 .22, from bags off the bench. It was scored 246 with a plug and I'm very happy with this gun!


 
Hey Kim
Very nice Benchrest Target....246 is an outstanding score. Especially for having the gun for only a few days!
My highest so far has been a 248...But I really want a 250...just once a 250 in real world conditions. :-( ...I'll get it one of these days
How do you like shooting with the group at Open Grove? I hear Joe puts on a 1st class event! I really need to go there and shoot with that group when I can find the time.
Do you plan on going to more matches this year?
It sucks when you finally find a perfect barrel/pellet combination only to find that the pellet it likes is no longer in production...ARGH!!!
Have you tried the Daystate's pellets "Sovereign"....I have had good success with these pellets, though they did cost a little more because I had to have them shipped over-seas...but all in all a nice pellet. They're a re-branded JSB pellet.
Hope you find the pellet/barrel match you are looking for. And thanks for posting a target.
Let Me ask you a question....when you have your target in sites....Do you pull the trigger then moment the reticle lines up on the target in a quick reaction, or do you try to hold the poa on the target to see if you aim is steady?
Also, knowing the we both shoot outdoors for matches, Are you ever puzzled when you get caught in a wind shift and are "holding over" for a shot and for some inexplicable reason, your shot hits in the middle of the cross-hairs instead of drifting to it's projected impact?
That one gets me a lot...lol
Thanks again for posting
Have a Great Fathers Day Weekend
Mike