Paying full boat for preorder

If they hold payment I don't mind but most charge your card ASAP. Had that problem when ordering my ALPHA filter you only have 90 days to claim a charge back if something goes south with the deal. Ask for a refund at day 75 then file a claim if they don't give a full refund.

Rummer has it that charging up front is a violation with the user agreement with Mastercard and Visa.
 
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Waiting on a Hatsan neutron star . It was a good price I think at $500 for the wood stock one.
Store gives you a big speel that it may take up to 30 days. So since they stated that ahead of time
and I thought it was a great deal I bought. That was Dec. 7 . Emailed to inquire what’s up . That was last Friday.
Got a couple computer responses and a person that basically said nothing.
Turns out Hatsan had a 30% off coupon all along which would have been about the same price.
 
It is not a matter of honesty but that anything can happen between now and then. I once bought a kayak ($1,200) down in Covington, La. but could not haul it and the owner said he would hold it for me as long as needed. I went back a month later and the shop had been sold and as far as the new owner was concerned there was no record of a kayak being paid for and being held. Even with the sales receipt showing I had paid in full and the kayak was being held for later pickup, a lot of fussing and fighting and being cursed out and called a lier I finally got my kayak with the admonition to NEVER come back. The next month I went down again to visit family and noticed the shop was closed, empty and gone. Only give for a preorder what you can afford to lose.
 
Another thing I'd like to point out is when a company charges you the full price the day you order and you pay using PP for example, you only have six months to file a claim. Twice, I was 2 weeks from the six month limit when I filed a claim. Once you are past six months, you have no claim. I did lose 100 some dollars that way to one dealer. He tagged me along past the six months so I gave him the benefit of the doubt then he told me to get screwed.
 
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Another thing I'd like to point out is when a company charges you the full price the day you order and you pay using PP for example, you only have six months to file a claim. Twice, I was 2 weeks from the six month limit when I filed a claim. Once you are past six months, you have no claim. I did lose 100 some dollars that way to one dealer. He tagged me along past the six months so I gave him the benefit of the doubt then he told me to get screwed.
@cmatera Do you mind sharing the dealer that shafted you so some of us don't make the same mistake?
 
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I've done it with established craftsmen for custom work. Like the Vernon Austin grips on my 1701P. I paid up front, full price, and waited a month to get them. They were only $100, but with that particular gentleman I would have put a lot more on the table for his work. I would not drop full price for a preorder under any other circumstances. Heck, I wouldn't do a deposit either. Only if the vendor's reputation warranted the risk and I really, really wanted what they were laying down.
 
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