Paypal quietly added the $2500.00 fine back in its policy - 2 weeks after the backlash

You’re using logic. You need to think with a “liberal” mind. Think might be a poor choice of words.
That's why I always specifically state that this is for AIR guns or PNEUMATIC guns. How do you think, am I going to be banned by PayPal if I pay for a NAIL gun using PayPal at Home Depot? It's also a gun "technically" ;). I do not violate any of PayPal policies, paying for airguns and stating so in transaction notes.
 
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PayPal is wholly owned subsidiary of Ebay, yet Ebay offers air guns and gun related accessories for sale. If, as some would suggest, that a "liberal mindset" was the cause; you'd think that same mindset and policy would apply across both platforms.
Agreed. And that's clearly written in acceptable policies. Here's the PayPal policy. Anyone, please show me where transactions involving airguns are prohibited. All this fear about using PayPal and getting banned is overblown and out of control. I never heard of anyone getting banned for buying or selling an airgun via PayPal. If anyone can give any real-life examples of people getting banned, please post them here. Otherwise, I say, PayPal is 100% safe for airguns selling and buying, even with notes saying that you are paying for an airgun.
 
Midway sells firearms and ammo, that's why they don't use PayPal. And this is what they specifically explain in this message. They can't allow to use PayPal as a method of payment for specific products and don't allow for others. I.e. allow paying for a scope with PayPal but if you try to buy ammo from them then disable this payment method. That's why they don't allow it at all. It has nothing to do with airguns. As I pointed already out, eBay allow sell of airguns and allows you to pay with PayPal no problem.
Think shooting sports.
 
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That's why I always specifically state that this is for AIR guns or PNEUMATIC guns. How do you think, am I going to be banned by PayPal if I pay for a NAIL gun using PayPal at Home Depot? It's also a gun "technically" ;). I do not violate any of PayPal policies, paying for airguns and stating so in transaction notes.
A nail gun is clearly a tool and PP knows and acknowledges that. The shooting sports, which obviously includes airguns, is their enemy.
 
Think shooting sports.
A nail gun is clearly a tool and PP knows and acknowledges that. The shooting sports, which obviously includes airguns, is their enemy.
Someone earlier in this thread speculated that having "gun" in PP transaction notes word may trigger account ban ;). Stores and retailers that sell only airguns, bows, crossbows, etc. happily accept PayPal no problem. PayPal is very specific about what's prohibited, and there are no broad terms in their acceptable use policy like "shooting sports", you can read it here https://www.paypal.com/us/legalhub/acceptableuse-full. Don't get me wrong, I don't like PayPal at all for their anti-gun stance, which is rather politically motivated IMHO. All I'm saying is that it's safe to trade airguns via PayPal and I don't understand where all this fear of PayPal is coming from. I guess it spills over from firearms community (many of us who shoot airguns own firearms too) and general impression that PayPal is against everything related to shooting, which is not correct. Again, I'll repeat that I have never heard of anyone getting banned on PayPal for paying or receiving payment for airguns. As of today, it's only rumors and fiction in my book until I know about a specific case of this happening to someone.
 
Someone earlier in this thread speculated that having "gun" in PP transaction notes word may trigger account ban ;). Stores and retailers that sell only airguns, bows, crossbows, etc. happily accept PayPal no problem. PayPal is very specific about what's prohibited, and there are no broad terms in their acceptable use policy like "shooting sports", you can read it here https://www.paypal.com/us/legalhub/acceptableuse-full. Don't get me wrong, I don't like PayPal at all for their anti-gun stance, which is rather politically motivated IMHO. All I'm saying is that it's safe to trade airguns via PayPal and I don't understand where all this fear of PayPal is coming from. I guess it spills over from firearms community (many of us who shoot airguns own firearms too) and general impression that PayPal is against everything related to shooting, which is not correct. Again, I'll repeat that I have never heard of anyone getting banned on PayPal for paying or receiving payment for airguns. As of today, it's only rumors and fiction in my book until I know about a specific case of this happening to someone.
Like all causes, it’s better to unite. In a perfect world, that would work.

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Folks, I just called PayPal customer service to get final clarification and asked about their policy and if there are any restrictions on buying or selling airguns using PayPal. They escalated it to their legal department and got back to me with a definitive answer that there are no restrictions on airgun products, it does not violate any policies, and it will not get your PP account banned. I hope it will put an end to this misconception about "my account will be restricted and closed" if I pay or receive a payment for an airgun via PayPal.
 
Folks, I just called PayPal customer service to get final clarification and asked about their policy and if there are any restrictions on buying or selling airguns using PayPal. They escalated it to their legal department and got back to me with a definitive answer that there are no restrictions on airgun products, it does not violate any policies, and it will not get your PP account banned. I hope it will put an end to this misconception about "my account will be restricted and closed" if I pay or receive a payment for an airgun via PayPal.
PayPal is anti gun. If a company takes a stance that clearly seeks to discriminate or infringe upon my rights I won’t use them. There is no “it’s ok because it’s for airguns”. It’s the same as if they said they would not allow you to buy any religious items or maybe a copy of Tom Sawyer or donate to a political party.

Where you spend your dollars matters.

Also, if you collect a total amount of $600 or more for the year, you’ll be getting a 1099k for you to claim on your taxes.
 
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PayPal is anti gun. If a company takes a stance that clearly seeks to discriminate or infringe upon my rights I won’t use them. There is no “it’s ok because it’s for airguns”. It’s the same as if they said they would not allow you to buy any religious items or maybe a copy of Tom Sawyer or donate to a political party.

Where you spend your dollars matters.

Also, if you collect a total amount of $600 or more for the year, you’ll be getting a 1099k for you to claim on your taxes.
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PayPal is anti gun. If a company takes a stance that clearly seeks to discriminate or infringe upon my rights I won’t use them. There is no “it’s ok because it’s for airguns”. It’s the same as if they said they would not allow you to buy any religious items or maybe a copy of Tom Sawyer or donate to a political party.

Where you spend your dollars matters.

Also, if you collect a total amount of $600 or more for the year, you’ll be getting a 1099k for you to claim on your taxes.
I totally agree with you that you shouldn't give your business to a company that discriminates against you or infringes on your rights. My whole point is that using PayPal for buying or selling airguns will not get you banned, and this is something that a lot of folks here are so afraid of. There is no proof nor basis for this irrational fear of getting your PP account restricted or closed at all when it comes to airgun sales and the only reason not to use PP is if you do not like them or don't agree with their social and political stance.
 
Exactly. If a description is “required” I always put “machined parts”.
It’s like people that have stickers like Yeti, Glock, Sig etc on their car. A crook that recognizes those brands might say “Ooh, maybe there’s a overpriced cooler in that car, I’ll smash the window to have a look see”.
Question: If you put "machine parts" on a goods and services transfer if the item is lost/stolen or damaged in transit do you reimburse the buyer? if you don't how does a buyer dispute when "machine parts" are listed and it was a an airgun?
 
Question: If you put "machine parts" on a goods and services transfer if the item is lost/stolen or damaged in transit do you reimburse the buyer? if you don't how does a buyer dispute when "machine parts" are listed and it was a an airgun?
It’s still machined parts. It’s just that when assembled they become a airgun. The shipping companies know they have crooks and thieves on staff, hence the use of a more accurate tempting description.
Another reason to always take photos of contents and the exterior.