pcp open sight pistol
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I bought mine from Krale in the Netherlands. Don’t let that scare you because it only took me three days to get it in Pennsylvania. They shipped it one hour after I placed my order. You can ask anybody on here how fast they ship. But normally it is 3 to 5 days.Just google them and you will see everything they sell. I can’t say for sure if they’re in stock right at the moment though. You will have to check . Now you can buy one in Canada From Airgun archery also but you will have to keep in mind that they are not as powerful because of the restrictions. The Netherlands don’t have restrictions. You can adjust the regulator on it and the hammer spring.And also adjustable trigger. It is powerful And accurate. I have a red dot on mine. Later on I’m gonna buy the folding stock for it.
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Crosssman 1701 with Williams sight...so accurate and so many shots ,will worth the price....
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Not a pcp but worthy... an HW75 
Love it enough to get a second, if I can find one.
But yes on serious note am still waiting for a quality, multi-shot pcp pistol one can shoot and treasure (such as the hw75).
Love it enough to get a second, if I can find one.But yes on serious note am still waiting for a quality, multi-shot pcp pistol one can shoot and treasure (such as the hw75).
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The Diana Bandit is just another cheap Chinese made pistol with all of the Chinese problems and no parts or aftermarket parts to speak of.
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Yes, you will need to purchase a rear sight, red dot or scope separately. The 1701 is one of the better choices you can make for what you are after. Are there cheaper gun available why yes there are but when you buy cheap you all too often get what you paid for.
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I went with the Crosman 1701p with Williams notched blade rear sight. The 1701p is extremely accurate with lots of aftermarket parts and modifications available. It comes with an adjustable front sight that gives you a narrow and wide front sight blade. Just loosen the set screw and rotate the front sight blade to the size you want. You do have to buy the Williams sight separately as noted above. Very easy to install. The elevation and windage adjustments are crisp and repeatable. The 1701p and Williams sight should run about $425-450 shipped depending on where you buy and what discount codes you use.
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Thanks for all the replies.
I am only interested in iron sights for now.
dennisu,
Very helpful, is. The stock grip ambidextrous ?
I am only interested in iron sights for now.
dennisu,
Very helpful, is. The stock grip ambidextrous ?
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The grips in the picture are not ambidextrous. They are a set of right handed target grips from D. B. Webb (https://store.dbwebbinc.com/pistol-grips/crossman). They also make left handed grips. The plastic grips that ship with the 1701p are flat and are ambidextrous. My apologies for any confusion.
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No confusion at all and just what I was looking for.
I like to practice with left hand also.
Thank you
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The Williams notched blade rear sight is a lot more expensive than I would have thought.
I will try to find it in stock and for a decent price
I will try to find it in stock and for a decent price
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First, the real value of a PCP pistol for me is affordable practice, but there are downsides. PCP pistols have loopy trajectories, so the sights must have a large elevation adjust ability and because of that they can be only set for relatively short distances as accurate hold over with iron sights is not possible. I bought a PP700SA exactly for this purpose because I love the weight and balance. They are also extremely accurate. You can have confidence that a miss is your fault alone, not the gun's.
My initial impression is that the factory iron sights are totally useless. There is no elevation adjustment at all. So I went out and ordered an adjustable rear sight and milled the dovetail on the gun to match. That wasn't good enough because now the front blade was too low, so I had to make a new one. That too didn't work well either because now the rear sight interfered with the rotating loading door. In the end after all my faffing around, I decided that open sights don't work worth a damn on an air pistol. I then went out and bought Red Dot sights, Reflex sights, See-all sights and a laser sight. Then tried them all. Remember, my primary usage is practice first and pesting secondarily. I found the reflex sight the most useful for practice and ranges beyond 15 yards because the sight does not block the target when holding over at longer ranges and it fully meets my practice criteria. I usually shoot between 20 and 50 rounds a day, every day at 25 yards.. The only downside to the reflex sight is that the sight line is about 1 5/8" above the barrel line, which means I have to hold over my target at short ranges and depending on the actual distance involved, changes between 1 5/8" and "0". I solved that issue by installed an inexpensive laser ($5) to the longitudinal dovetail on the barrel shroud. The laser is very small and is mounted very close to the barrel line. (.400"). It is adjusted parallel to the barrel. Now the holdover is easily seen at all ranges for pesting.
I am very impressed with the PP700SA. It is accurate and cheap at around $250. feels really good. It has a nice trigger and excellent balance. It is Chinese, so it has terrible quality O rings, so be prepared to reseal the gun if you get one.
My initial impression is that the factory iron sights are totally useless. There is no elevation adjustment at all. So I went out and ordered an adjustable rear sight and milled the dovetail on the gun to match. That wasn't good enough because now the front blade was too low, so I had to make a new one. That too didn't work well either because now the rear sight interfered with the rotating loading door. In the end after all my faffing around, I decided that open sights don't work worth a damn on an air pistol. I then went out and bought Red Dot sights, Reflex sights, See-all sights and a laser sight. Then tried them all. Remember, my primary usage is practice first and pesting secondarily. I found the reflex sight the most useful for practice and ranges beyond 15 yards because the sight does not block the target when holding over at longer ranges and it fully meets my practice criteria. I usually shoot between 20 and 50 rounds a day, every day at 25 yards.. The only downside to the reflex sight is that the sight line is about 1 5/8" above the barrel line, which means I have to hold over my target at short ranges and depending on the actual distance involved, changes between 1 5/8" and "0". I solved that issue by installed an inexpensive laser ($5) to the longitudinal dovetail on the barrel shroud. The laser is very small and is mounted very close to the barrel line. (.400"). It is adjusted parallel to the barrel. Now the holdover is easily seen at all ranges for pesting.
I am very impressed with the PP700SA. It is accurate and cheap at around $250. feels really good. It has a nice trigger and excellent balance. It is Chinese, so it has terrible quality O rings, so be prepared to reseal the gun if you get one.
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Steve,
Interesting , the reason for this purchase is to practice my pistol skills as the cost of real ammo is crazy at the moment.
I do need something that is accurate enough that if I miss I know it's me distance of the shot and pest control doesn't matter to me.
If I have to shoot short distance for basic sight alignment and Trigger control I would just shoot at a very small Target.
Interesting , the reason for this purchase is to practice my pistol skills as the cost of real ammo is crazy at the moment.
I do need something that is accurate enough that if I miss I know it's me distance of the shot and pest control doesn't matter to me.
If I have to shoot short distance for basic sight alignment and Trigger control I would just shoot at a very small Target.
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