PCP questions.

[dgeesaman]

If you’re serious about slug accuracy the man to talk to is Mike Niksch and his Thomas HP slug rifles. He’s gotten them very competitive with BR rimfire rigs but I couldn’t tell you details.

Slugs get less expensive if you swage your own but that’s time spent making not shooting. And you’ll still need a meaty compressor to keep the bottles full.

 

[JimD]

Pyramyd finally got some in today and I ordered 4 tins, 800, 21 grain H&N slugs for my Caiman X. I think it was about $70 delivered. That's close to double pellets but I like messing with slugs in at least one gun. For 50 and especially 100 yards slugs will help because of a much better bc.

There are a lot of guys spending a lot more than I have on air rifles. My Caiman was $1400 and it's the only one I've bought over $500. It and my P35-22 have both given me a 200 on the 30 yard challenge target. There are multiple guns under $1000 that are very worthwhile having and that shoot well enough to use at 50 to 100 yards. If you want to spend more that's great I am just commenting I don't think you have to.

 

[Peashooter]

.5 inch at 100 yards with a .177, that is the stuff dreams are made off, and for sure it will only be possible with slugs.
I have yet to shoot a good 100 yards group as i have been shooting a bit short of 100 mainly due to the layout of out range, and now that this have improved greatly i tend to shoot 120 + yards.
But a 1" group at 100 that i firmly believe is possible, also on a fairly regular basis, but putting 5 into half of that is something else, at least from what i get from all ( .177 almost exclusive caliber here in Denmark ) shooters here

If i was you i would look at a .22 instead, i would shoot those if it was possible for Danes with just a slight bit of ease.

2 of my good groups, and even shot back 2 back, but only 86 M, which is 90 or so yards.

 

[beerthief]

I have a Vudoo single shot br rifle, Anschutz 1907 prone rifle, and a couple of centerfire rifles that shoot one hole at 100y. Tuners, tunnel testing, hand pulled bullets, Lapua brass and match ammo, you know where that’s at. With my best lot matched ammo or handloads the one hole performance occasionally gets boring.

I have never achieved one hole anything airgun at 50y. At least not more than the odd occurrence. Wind is 5x more influential on airgun pellets than rimfire.

That Walther is a 10m match rifle that shoots at very low power. The Field Target model does 12 ft-lb (2x more) and will give up a lot at 50y to higher power airguns.

The only way to shoot small groups at 50 and 100 is with a very high power pcp and just the right slug and tune. Pellets just aren’t as consistent ballistically at those ranges. I’ve made some attempts to do this with my high power pellet PCPs and never got a consistently accurate combination. I will try again this year using an unchoked Benchmark barrel I have. And these airguns drink air and expensive slugs.

So the question is whether you’re set on 50 and 100y. If you can move the goalposts to 25 and 50 you can enjoy pellet shooting. You’ll come to appreciate one hole groups and good wind calls much more. There are guys I shoot with who did everything in firearms and have ignored all of it for 25-50y airgunning.

this last paragraph is where i'm at also

 

[JimD]

For 100 yard competitions they mostly use 30 caliber and some 25 calibers. You have to use pellets but the bc of all projectiles gets better as the diameter increases. Airguns can also make 22lr level energy much easier in larger calibers. Some have tuned 22 calibers to shoot 40 grain slugs over 1000 fps but shot count is very low. So to maximize accuracy at long range you may want to think of larger calibers, but it increases projectile cost.