Hello all, I am still very new to PCP rifles and was curious, can you set up your rifle with a remote tank like a paintball gun? I got a Gauntlet 30 and was wondering if instead of leaving the tank on the front if I could belt mount it and run a 400-bar hose from it to the rifle?
PCP Rifle air tank mounting
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Not sure about how what you’re asking about works in paintball guns, but look up tethering.
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I thought Gauntlets came with a 22ci bottle - might be simpler to just get a 90ci bottle and carry it in a backpack for your "long excursions"?
EDIT: new to airguns, but you purchased a .30 cal?
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that's basically what I want to do but run the air from my pack and not have the weight up front
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well instead of having the air tank on the front of the gun I want it in my pack or on a belt and run an airline from it to the gun
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I’m not sure how it would work if one tried to remove the reservoir entirely, but one option might be to use an airgun with an air tube for a reservoir (instead of a bottle) and tether a tank to it. I wouldn’t recommend doing so, but it is feasible. For more info on tethering refer to post #4.
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crh,
Welcome to the forum, lots of good information here. Not familiar with tethering other than bench shooting. Some carry "buddy bottles" to switch out for additional shooting or just install larger bottles. As a Gen One Umarex Gauntlet owner, don't think the air tank is a major source of weight, the 10 pound (scoped), 47-inch-long behemoth is still going to be heavy and unwieldy, even with a remote tank. Only use mine now for bench shooting, second PCP was an FX Wildcat MK3 Sniper .30, much more practical for hunting. WM
Welcome to the forum, lots of good information here. Not familiar with tethering other than bench shooting. Some carry "buddy bottles" to switch out for additional shooting or just install larger bottles. As a Gen One Umarex Gauntlet owner, don't think the air tank is a major source of weight, the 10 pound (scoped), 47-inch-long behemoth is still going to be heavy and unwieldy, even with a remote tank. Only use mine now for bench shooting, second PCP was an FX Wildcat MK3 Sniper .30, much more practical for hunting. WM
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Agree that tethering while hunting is not a good idea. I'd set up a gun to be self sufficient for a reasonable amount of hunting shots - whatever works for you; could be as low as 2-5 on a very small tank at high power or more with a bit bigger one or at lower power. Then I would carry a small regulated buddy bottle and refill as needed using an Edgun Easy Fill on the end of the line - they work great that way as they vent a very small amount of air very quietly and keep the line charged ready for the next hit of air - and with the tank regulated there is nothing to manage on a valve; just squeeze the Easy Fill and let the air flow into the gun. This set up actually is one where fill probes work really well, as the probe can be in the Easy Fill and slip in and out the gun easier than hooking up a foster fitting.
I use a variation of the above for my Air Arms Alpha 10m pistol, which I like but does not get a ton of shots. I have a 500cc bottle with a regulated valve (got the valve from Wes at Airgun Archery Fun) and have the Air Arms adaptor in the Easy Fill for quick and effortless top offs. In your case, I would just use a bigger tank in the pack.
I also do the same with my Huben for quick refills in extended shooting sessions, except I don't use a regulated tank as the Huben can take whatever air I can feed it.
I use a variation of the above for my Air Arms Alpha 10m pistol, which I like but does not get a ton of shots. I have a 500cc bottle with a regulated valve (got the valve from Wes at Airgun Archery Fun) and have the Air Arms adaptor in the Easy Fill for quick and effortless top offs. In your case, I would just use a bigger tank in the pack.
I also do the same with my Huben for quick refills in extended shooting sessions, except I don't use a regulated tank as the Huben can take whatever air I can feed it.
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Man says he wants to run an airline to his PCP. I can’t think of many members that would try or want to try this, but this guys does for some reason. I didn’t read a thing about hunting. What did I miss?
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Thanks for the comment it is what I was thinking as well. I do appreciate the advice given but it is a bit off the mark like you said Im just looking to see if running a remote tank on the rifle wound work. I used to do it with my paintball set up and prefer it.
As for the excursion, I mean long camping trips/hikes where id rather takes a large bottle that doesn't fit on the front of the gun. You see, I do not have the money to invest in more bottles but I do have access to a couple of scuba tanks. Not to mention it's just a preference thing lol.
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That is a good point unfortunately I don't have anything planned yet. However, my thought was something along the lines of a survival time where I eat what I catch build a shelter, and so on. The rifle will be for food, target shooting, and possibly boar protection(if necessary).
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@crh1209
I was thinking of some sort of wilderness obstacle course. What you’ve described does fall under hunting and in that case trekking with a pressurized line from a high pressure air tank connected to your gun is a bad idea. If that line becomes detached, whips around and strikes you with the metal fill fitting on the end, that’s dangerous. What if it strikes your head (temple) or eye? If it doesn’t hit you and messes up the coupler in the fitting you have a fill hose that is now useless. If the hose ruptured and blows out, I imagine that it can cut you and again you have a useless hose. To me it’s unsafe in general.
The idea here is to find a gun that suits you. If you find a gun too heavy, buy a lighter rifle or workout to build your strength. If you’re hunting you shouldn’t need a lot of shots. One or two per animal will do. @cavedweller provided sound advice. For a survival gun think simplicity. Something without a lot of parts that can be repaired with relative ease with stockpiled parts. Airforce Airguns makes decent guns for this purpose. Check out the Airforce Escape. While you’re at it maybe look at the Talon and Condor as well. Also look into a hand pump for a survival scenario. There are plenty of posts discussing this type of scenario. Search around the AGN forums.
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You could replace the front tank with a 700cc carbon fiber tank. Twice the capacity and lighter.
FWIW if you turn down the hammer spring to minimum on the Guantlet 30, you double your shot count and still get 70 fpe. Which is more than enough for small/medium game. I'm talking on the stock air tank going from 3 magazines to 6 magazines before it drops off the reg pressure.
IMO the G2 30 is a pretty versatile survival option. Yes, you'll want a hand pump to keep it topped off. Also know how to repair that air pump and have extra o-rings, silicone lube, etc.
FWIW if you turn down the hammer spring to minimum on the Guantlet 30, you double your shot count and still get 70 fpe. Which is more than enough for small/medium game. I'm talking on the stock air tank going from 3 magazines to 6 magazines before it drops off the reg pressure.
IMO the G2 30 is a pretty versatile survival option. Yes, you'll want a hand pump to keep it topped off. Also know how to repair that air pump and have extra o-rings, silicone lube, etc.
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You've received a copious amount of really good advice.
Hopefully you are actually looking for good advice, and not just seeking confirmation on what you've already decided to do.
Best of luck, and remember these airguns run at much higher pressures than paintball guns.
Vines
Hopefully you are actually looking for good advice, and not just seeking confirmation on what you've already decided to do.
Best of luck, and remember these airguns run at much higher pressures than paintball guns.
Vines
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Thank you all for your sound advice. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Basically, what I have gathered is you can't run your tank separate from your gun. This was what I was curious about, so I got the answer I was looking for plus great suggestions to consider thank you.
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