That looks like the way I have all my Anschutz and FWB diopters set up. Extension tube behind the sight body, then then an adjustable iris.,
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Peep Sight Question
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I have both the Willams, some Anschutz and a FWB diopter. As far as accuracy, once the sight is zeroed in and the Williams slide is clamped down it is in my opinion as accurate as the other two. Now the others have finer adjustments, but that in itself does not make it more accurate. As long as that little apeture hole does not move it is going to be accurate!
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Very much so but be aware you more than likely will have to do the "fix". If like many owners you strip the gun and give it a bit of a tickle it adds about half an hour to time taken and is very simple to do. Its a fantastic little gun. The .177 is better run at 10.5ftlbs or less and the .22 just a little higher. It is considered in the UK the perfect gun for 12ftlbs. I prefer the .177 and have had, well it must be over 10 not sure. If i need a few Quid for another gun I sell a 99 then later buy another. I am just about to sell one on my Forum in the UK. I had that at 9.5ftlbs. I have had to put it up to 11ftlbs as nobody would I dont think buy it at 9.5ftlbs. People are obsessed with power.
What is the ftlbs that these hw30's are putting out?
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I have always been happy with under 7ftlbs. Are they not a bit harsh at that power. What kind of spring are you using?
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It just might be. My only Williams is on a FWB 124D, more of a true sporter style and not the best trigger. The other Anschutz sights or on HW guns, underlevers, so a fixed barrel and the one FWB sight is a factory diopter on a FWB 300s target rifle, so basically as far as the used, at least in my case would be comparing apples to oranges. Saying that I am not as good now at my age, just shy of 78 as I was 40+ years ago but that little FWB124 could shoot some tiny groups at 10-20 yards, and on a good day with me shooting is as good as any of the others. I do not have the best most absolute steady shooting table, one of the Caldwell stable table's, which contrary to it's name is not the most stable thing going. I generally get a gun zeroed on paper, and then do most of my shooting, from an offhand, ie, standing up position, shooting at small tin cans at 15-20 yards, more fun with a reactive target than trying for the tinest groups.It would be interesting to see some groups to see the comparison.
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Vortex 2 PG2 and 1 PG4 kits. Both run 21or 21.5 coil 0.730" 0.113" wire springs. The shot cycle is instantaneous and beautiful. The accuracy is excellent. My 30s accuracy can keep up with my top dog 97 and 95 out to 25 yards. I have shot beer cans with my 30s out to 100 yards with pretty darn good results. Certainly the most fun I have with my BB guns.
Admittedly I don't normally shoot groups with them past 30 yards. I found an old target picture with ten at 40 with peeps. It was regular ditto paper so it tore easily. Most of the shots went through the 9 to 11 o'clock position of the 1" target sticker. Still not shabby for an unscoped low power gun.
Here's another from the same rifle at ten yards in the basement. All ten shots unless otherwise marked. Number 3 is personal best.
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Gocha. As a matter of interest I am 82. My shooting is all bench rested. My best gun out to 25 yards is my recoiling hw77. This gun wears a weihrauch diopter with an extender that puts the Iris 5 cm from my eye. I recently just got rid of an FWB300s an FWB300su and a Dianna 75. All of these three guns are 10 meter specialists. Resting all the the guns. With the HW77 from 10 yards to 27 yards I could beat all the other three guns with ease every single time I pitted them against each other. They were all equipped with Diopters. I still have the groups for all the distances and I still have my HW77 which is tuned not by me to an output of 9.5ftlbs which is the output I asked for.
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Off hand? Ha! I wish, not a chance for this guy. I shoot sitting at a table, with my elbows on it but no rest. So I'm benched but not rested if that makes any sense?
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Darn you're right. I just bought a 20 cal HW98. Thanks jccams I thought the list looked light
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Right you are. I just ordered a Gehmann 510PH, which is (should be) threaded for the Parker/Hale and should be compatible with the Williams. Thank you for the info!
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This is the adapter, just a simple grommet really. Any good shooting supply place should have it:
PH999 Thread adaptor for standard irises into Parker-Hale or Redfield | AABCE664F0D746C3B7694002816163C4
Adaptor for standard irises into Parker-Hale or Redfield Steel construction
www.gehmann.com As noted, Gehmann makes a version of the iris with the US / Parker-Hale thread built it. But the advantage of the adapter, of course, is that you can remove it and then use the same iris in any German sight, i.e., one iris will fit any sight you are ever likely to own.
The only disadvantage is that, if you get an iris with a magnifying lens, the smaller opening in US sights will narrow the field-of-view a bit. Still magnifies and focuses just fine, just a smaller picture. If no lens the adapter makes no diff.
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Thanks, @MDriskill . I had found and considered the adapter, but opted to go with a direct fit so I would have a good excuse to get another iris later. For now, this should be fine for my intended purposes, which is not a typical use case. I am experimenting with front and rear sight combinations on my Marauder and I am finding the supplied aperture on the Williams too large under some circumstances. If and when I get into match-grade rear sights, I'll probably go with something vintage and European.
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