Pellet energy at point of impact

The question is specifically prairie dog, up to raccoon yet you keep taking about Russian boar and safaris. Do you actually want to give advice? Sounds more like you're trying to hunt Trolls! I'm probably not the best to give advice since airguns are my actual full time job and how I support my family. Along with all the advice given from several of the others whom I know and respect. I guess none of us are as qualified as you. So how about you educate us so we're not out here doing it wrong.
 
The question is specifically prairie dog, up to raccoon yet you keep taking about Russian boar and safaris. Do you actually want to give advice? Sounds more like you're trying to hunt Trolls! I'm probably not the best to give advice since airguns are my actual full time job and how I support my family. Along with all the advice given from several of the others whom I know and respect. I guess none of us are as qualified as you. So how about you educate us so we're not out here doing it wrong.
"The question is specifically prairie dog, up to raccoon" this would include squirrels and rabbit , rats , birds and new born Russian Boars i guess ?
Really i am just teasing you and this is about as serious as i ever get .😎
 
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I used my pump up 177 on a squirrel once but won't again. It is only about 5fpe at the muzzle. It was a short range shot so was still at 3 or 4 but all I succeeded in doing is breaking the near side shoulder. It died in the yard days later. Couldn't climb but it could run on three legs. I do not know the absolute lowest that will work but I lost 2 of the first 4 squirrels I think I hit with my Prod with the original 12-14 fpe tune. I took the 14th with a 18-19 fpe tune this morning. I think it works much better with a little more power. The only one I've lost with the higher power was brain shot and flipped into the rotted out area at the base of the oak tree I shot it out of. I know break barrels cannot so easily be turned up in power and I'm sure they can work well, especially in 177, at 12 fpe or so. But I like 18-20 fpe at the muzzle for my "little guns". In wide open spaces I use a 30-50 fpe airgun. It's clearly a diminishing returns situation but I think they die a little quicker with the more powerful guns.
 
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The question is specifically prairie dog, up to raccoon yet you keep taking about Russian boar and safaris. Do you actually want to give advice? Sounds more like you're trying to hunt Trolls! I'm probably not the best to give advice since airguns are my actual full time job and how I support my family. Along with all the advice given from several of the others whom I know and respect. I guess none of us are as qualified as you. So how about you educate us so we're not out here doing it wrong.
I'll give credit where credit is due. Awesome shot! I don't care what you were using. You took ethically, that's what counts.
 
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I would rather have more than less. Some critters just do not cooperate.

I fully agree that more than minimum is almost always better.
I'll give credit where credit is due. Awesome shot! I don't care what you were using. You took ethically, that's what counts.
It was very close. I wouldn't have taken that shot with that gun at 15+ yards. I'd want more power. That's the way I feel it's ethical. I want enough energy at impact for an ethical kill. Also if I didn't have the accuracy to hit my POA I don't care of it's 100+ FPE I'm still not taking the shot. It's a balance in my opinion. I'm not going to tell someone else they are wrong if it works.
 
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A great example of pure stupidity and exemplary danger. NO RESPECT GIVEN AT ALL…. THIS IS WHAT gives airgunning a bad name.
Not suggesting it was a smart thing to do, or a viable option. Merely showing it has been done. Thammer is just trying to share his kill, which was ethical at that close range. It doesn't mean he would have tried that same shot further out. Ya'll need to lighten up. People come here to share and get encouragement.
 
Not suggesting it was a smart thing to do, or a viable option. Merely showing it has been done. Thammer is just trying to share his kill, which was ethical at that close range. It doesn't mean he would have tried that same shot further out. Ya'll need to lighten up. People come here to share and get encouragement.
I’m ready for chipmunk season.
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when i was living in california i dispatched a LOT of squirrels with an 8fpe 1322 out to 30 yards. some ran but i’m certain they got eaten by condors, coyote, cats or other scavengers. lol with airguns, i can’t tell what’s ethical and what’s cruel. dead is dead. to me, my notos killing a pigeon at 80 yards is just as cruelethical as my .25 huben sending a 1050fps varmint knocker 10 yards just to end a sparrow in a spectacular way. don’t people still throw sticks at rabbits in australia?
 
I am confident low power guns can work. Baiting is not legal in my state so getting them to sit still giving me a good angle to their brains is not normal. I am also not terribly patient. When I see one I want to put it down. So I want enough power, penetration really, that I can take the shots I get.