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HW/Weihrauch Pistol scope??
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What is real? How do you define 'real'? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
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I would Never put a rifle scope on a pistol, Yes, using a pistol scope is hard, but in life, practice is what makes things better. Red dots can be easier to use,the thing with a pistol scope is you almost always need to use a brace of some kind because the magnification of the scope shows how badly you shake.
it is about target, sight picture, and smooth trigger pull on target ,all at the same time,it not easy to do,the Red Dot can help you shoot quicker freehand.
Air Soft or green gas replicas are just like the real thing.
The brain part= practicing a lot so it becomes automatic, every time you do something it causes a very smooth line in your brain ,when you practice a lot this line becomes deeper and after say thousands of times it starts to become automatic...I doubt anyone here has developed those deep memory lines.
it is about target, sight picture, and smooth trigger pull on target ,all at the same time,it not easy to do,the Red Dot can help you shoot quicker freehand.
Air Soft or green gas replicas are just like the real thing.
The brain part= practicing a lot so it becomes automatic, every time you do something it causes a very smooth line in your brain ,when you practice a lot this line becomes deeper and after say thousands of times it starts to become automatic...I doubt anyone here has developed those deep memory lines.
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I shoot fixed distance target only so I cannot speak to hunting or Field Target. I sit at a bench and use a bipod.
I use a UTG pistol scope on my 22 cal HW-44 PCP pistol out to 100 yards and aim center mass.
From 100 to 200 yards I use a Thompson Center Contender chambered in 222 and a Bushnell Match Pro rifle scope. The scope is mounted as far back as possible and when sighting you ghost ring to keep the scope from smacking you in the face.
Both pistols are shot from a bench using a bipod. Both my elbows are on the bench with the pistol extended forward, the butt of the grip resting in the palm of my non trigger hand and my trigger hand gently holding the grip .
The HW-44 will jump a little when fired, the 222 will come off the bench about 2 inches But neither pistol will recoil backwards enough to be anywhere close to your face.
I use a UTG pistol scope on my 22 cal HW-44 PCP pistol out to 100 yards and aim center mass.
From 100 to 200 yards I use a Thompson Center Contender chambered in 222 and a Bushnell Match Pro rifle scope. The scope is mounted as far back as possible and when sighting you ghost ring to keep the scope from smacking you in the face.
Both pistols are shot from a bench using a bipod. Both my elbows are on the bench with the pistol extended forward, the butt of the grip resting in the palm of my non trigger hand and my trigger hand gently holding the grip .
The HW-44 will jump a little when fired, the 222 will come off the bench about 2 inches But neither pistol will recoil backwards enough to be anywhere close to your face.
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old lefty788.222 fn accurate! Oh for a good cheap pistol scopes NcStar,Simmons and older Tasco
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Thanks for the post. I shoot my HW100 also from a bench at fixed targets. I shoot at my home makeshift range that affords me only up to 75 yards. The accuracy is phenomenal!! I can literally blow out candles.
My feeling is that to set up the HW44 as a bench shooter would be somewhat redundant.
I’m looking for a different shooting experience that I think would be more challenging (in my limited range distance) so I decided to go with a red dot.
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I use a Edge pistol scope , has a 2 x 7 x 30 ? or 32 ? , anyway 12 to almost 20 inches Eye relief is the big thing , full arm extension .
oops : Burris Edge
oops : Burris Edge
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The edge comes in 28 or 32. The BSA Edge is a great scope for the money. I recently tried a 2-7x Thompson Contender scope. The glass is better but not drastically better. The eye box at full zoom was too similar to the half priced Edge, so I sold it. I’ll try a Burris next to see how much better the eye box is at full zoom.
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Yup, It would be nice if a scope manufacturer put out a dedicated, accurate pistol scope for inside 75 yards, with a full extended eye relief, and adjustable parallax.
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They are about 3 moa accuracy whereas a scope is about 1 moa. That is your ability to aim not necessarily hit. Lol
They all have problems. The trick is avoiding or getting around them.
Pistol scopes;
I shoot extended grip from a bag, so I need a long eyerelief scope.
Parallax issues are a problem because of limited range of my pistols, and they come pre set to a fixed range.
I get a bit of a ghost ring on high magnification. I shoot through the ghost ring, like a peep sight to eliminate parallax error.
Red Dots;
My first problem with the idea of a red dot was the size of the dot. The dot would easily cover most of my targets, so I bought the smallest dot I could find.
The solution was a change of thinking from thinking, aiming a Lazer, to aiming a brass bead on a rifle sight. So I zeroed for the pellet to hit on the top edge of the dot with great results. It still has the original problem if you wind up with a hold over situation.
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Air Pistol Sights, Insights And Incites chapter from Custom, Classic And Otherwise AWESOME AIR PISTOLS! attached.
View attachment AP SIghts pdf.pdf
View attachment AP SIghts pdf.pdf
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I must revive the ol thread as somewhere in time and space the holy grail of pistol scope for FIELD TARGET must exist?
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Considering the almost universal move toward the largest and HEAVIEST field target rigs rifle and PISTOL FT shooters can physically handle, I'd say the holy grail of pistol scopes for field target now exists (for most FT shooters). It's called the Sightron S6. Not my cup of tea, but there is much advantage in using the heaviest FT rig One can physically manage.
I see an FT future when only the strongest competitive power-lifters dominate Field Target.
Surely I jest? NO...
And don't call me Shirley.
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I have this Burris 3-12 x 32 pistol scope on order. Someone who has used it?
www.burrisoptics.com
Handgun Scope 3-12x32mm | Burris Optics
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If interested in a decent red dot for a pistol. Sig Sauer Romeo 5, 2 MOA dot. Be sure to get the one that has both the high and the low mount. I like mine a lot.
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I have this Burris 3-12 x 32 pistol scope on order. Someone who has used it?
Handgun Scope 3-12x32mm | Burris Optics
I have the 2-7x32 version. Very nice scope, very light. Big eye box. The fixed parallax did not affect accuracy.
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I like the old Scopechief VI on the Blitz. I'm thinking a red dot may be better on it. I may try mounting up the Romeo 5, it is sighted well on my muzzleloader so after late deer it might wander on to the Blitz. Keeping the intensity down makes for a very tiny dot with the Romeo 5, good optics too. No astigmatism issues as with other inexpensive red dot sights either.
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I use the Burris 3-12 x 32 pistol scope for my 270 encore pistol for hunting, have a second one for other calibers-7mm-08, I switch out to these calibers in the spring--223,204,243 and others.. They are long range scopes. For out to 200 yards and more. I also have Burris 2-7 power scopes for hunting handguns. I have used the lower power scope for medium range handguns like my 454 Casull,357,357 maximum, 41 mag, 414 super mag, 445 super magnum.
With practice, just like with pellet guns you will be humbled and amazed with how accurate you can become.
Same breathing, same concentration, same trigger control. same need for good shooting rests, bags ie. support system.
I shoot a lot of 50 yard targets over the year and use that distance for my sight in aiming point. The reason I do is I depend on a 50 yard zero and my Sierra Infinity Ballistic calculation software to work out other zeros.
Bottom line is all of these scopes are more than enough to make me look like a better shooter.
Here is my pistol rest https://targetshooting.com/product/model-1500-pistol-rest/
I guess what I am saying is a scope of the size and quality any of these scopes is a valuable accuracy tool. the 3-12 can be used as a spotting scope before or after you shoot. Even the 2-7 power can help.
With practice, just like with pellet guns you will be humbled and amazed with how accurate you can become.
Same breathing, same concentration, same trigger control. same need for good shooting rests, bags ie. support system.
I shoot a lot of 50 yard targets over the year and use that distance for my sight in aiming point. The reason I do is I depend on a 50 yard zero and my Sierra Infinity Ballistic calculation software to work out other zeros.
Bottom line is all of these scopes are more than enough to make me look like a better shooter.
Here is my pistol rest https://targetshooting.com/product/model-1500-pistol-rest/
I guess what I am saying is a scope of the size and quality any of these scopes is a valuable accuracy tool. the 3-12 can be used as a spotting scope before or after you shoot. Even the 2-7 power can help.
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