At XFT in AZ, yes. In EFT GP series, no. Some set local rules like in OR where barrel must be at least 15 inches off the ground so no prone or pretzel there. In TX and UT prone is allowed as long as bipod not attached and you can see the target from that low.
ha! prone may have been allowed in Utah at their only match so far but wouldn't have helped anybody. Good percentage of the targets weren't addressable from standard seated/bipod position. Lots of standing shots, BUT they at least provided long/standing shooting sticks.
Exactly. At TexTreme all but one lane targets are accessible prone. I plan to shoot that course prone in the June EFT GP event. Like Cole said very few targets in UT were accessible prone, same at EBR EFT GP finale.
Ron got chiggers there in Texas?
Ron has chiggers like Alaska has mosquitoes! I had chigger bites from the tops of my feet to the backs of my ears after the June match this year.Ron got chiggers there in Texas?
I grew up in southeastern Oklahoma. Nobody lays on the ground in chigger country unless they're unconscious and got there by accident.
lol, on day 2 of Textreme GP, centercut will be scratching like a dog where you can SEE the fleas crawling around!
As the other S in S&S, I can tell you these targets can be used for 12ftlbs @57 yards as was tested and proven by Peykan at the Oct,5th night match. So if any club is looking for versatile targets that can be used for AAFTA or XFT. These are it. They have been in use for 2 years and in the elements for the same time. We are shooting 100Ftlbs at them and have not even had to flip a reducer. The Reducers and face plates are symmetrical. This means that both could be flipped over IF they ever got so dented. The mechanism is assembled with interlocking slots. This makes for flush welds and stronger end results. The reducers make these targets so versatile at any distance. The reducers are threaded not the faceplate. This means the reducers can be put on the front of the faceplate per AAFTA rules. They also will bolt on the back of the faceplate. We also use shoulder bolts at all pivoting and slide locations for ease of operation. This makes the targets very consistent on HOLDING a set point and makes them pull up super easy. Call either one of us or check the website www.azxft.com
Prone is just like shooting off-hand with sticks. Some people don't want to practice from seat and Bipod. I think my rules have proven the best shooter wins EVERY time, not the best equipment or someone that can get an advantage because they are more flexible than the avg shooter in the field. If everyone has to do the same position it levels the playing field. EVERYONE can shoot from a bucket and bipod. Not everyone can lay prone with a bipod. IMO prone is way more stable than bucket or seat.
I'd hope that if somebody cleans house from prone in Utah or Texas, a change of rules occurs in the direction of the standardization that you're talking about. Of course Ron seems to be a wily one, and now that Centercut has announced his intentions, Ron may have some tricks up his sleeve. With the extreme FT final match at EBR, the cactus and terrain make prone a moot point.
Well he would win the title of "Winner of Most Chiggers Acquired in Uncomfortable Locations at Textreme 2023." Hehe.
Ben, yes, I get that. I can't remember, but bum bags are allowed at XFT, correct? As long as the soles of both feet are on the ground...? On one hand, the same position for everyone seems fair, but on the other hand it doesn't simulate hunting where various positions might be used depending on the situation presented.
You're gonna need to marinate yourself in that DEET in the hotel bathtub the night before the match. ha ha.Cole, I've already ordered a case of Deep Woods off for the TexTreme event...
Heheheeee... and my shooting mat and clothes will be washed in DEET... Hope it doesn't cause cancer!
The only reason I asked is that when sitting on a bum bag, the shooter can rest the butt of his stock on his knee, with the fore end on a bipod, which is a position most can't get into, kinda like prone in a way as far as "fairness"... A couple guys in TX shoot that way, and in the most recent TexTreme EFT event the 1st and 2nd places shot in that ultra-stable position. That's what got me thinking of prone, since what's good for the goose...
wait wait wait. During all the XFT positional debates, I got ridiculed for suggesting that a bumbag might be a more stable position and therefore offer an advantage. More than one self-proclaimed expert with lots of "experience" saying no benefit from a bumbag. Ahhh this is a good memory.
