Private Label Compressors

[flpcp]

A bit of background: I work in import and private labeling. A lot of the compressors on the market look to be rebranded units from other makers from around the world.Most of them are mass produced but the parts can be upgraded at the factory they are made in.

Right now, I have one of my overseas contacts trying to source a high end compressor that will also fill the large tanks. While I don't expect to hear much until after the Chinese New Year, I think the same principles can be applied to these compressors as what I have custom made. We are talking upgraded parts and durability testing instead of some off the wall already made design with budget components.

So my question for all of you: If you got to choose every detail of a compressor, what would the things you would want to see in it? Think about the parts that normally break pr wear out quickly as this custom manufacturing can address those.

Once I have a list I will get one produced and run it through the ringer and see how it holds up against the named good compressors. Thoughts?

 

[beerthief]

nice undertaking , wish you the best with this .

 

[flpcp]

nice undertaking , wish you the best with this .

Thank you, I hope it all works out too. We shall see! They've already sourced some that I have never seen before. Just waiting on the upgrade price list and any needed changes.

 

[madeintheuk]

Would love to see something that will fill tanks, and still have decent longevity without having to setup the water bucket with ice, and all that. Something like the new carette with built in radiator and fan, but with lower cost. I would love to own an alkin, and have 1 compressor for the rest of my hobby, but $4k plus for a compressor is just not logical thinking for us hobbyists.

 

[flpcp]

Would love to see something that will fill tanks, and still have decent longevity without having to setup the water bucket with ice, and all that. Something like the new carette with built in radiator and fan, but with lower cost. I would love to own an alkin, and have 1 compressor for the rest of my hobby, but $4k plus for a compressor is just not logical thinking for us hobbyists.

Thank you for the feedback and insight! The price target for this compressor will hopefully be less than $2k with USA warranty support. You are correct on the price, 4k is simply too much for my hobby. Think of all the rifles that could buy!

 

[Camaro454]

1) No single source in USA for purchasing.

2) Repair parts all available online for immediate customer purchase in stock USA for repair.

3) Repair manual proofread and in English.

4) Submitted to USA testing source like UL for through testing and documentation. CSA is not good enough.

5) do not use npt/bsp/ or compression fittings rather use sourced fittings from USA with high pressure face seal design.

An updated design should mean you had direct engineering input that you can demonstrate and not that you picked from a basket of alternates that add value ( perceived) so you proclaim " made exclusively for us for US market" Drawings are an absolute.

 

[beerthief]

Thank you for the feedback and insight! The price target for this compressor will hopefully be less than $2k with USA warranty support. You are correct on the price, 4k is simply too much for my hobby. Think of all the rifles that could buy!

you still would have to choose only one rifle .

 

[flpcp]

1) No single source in USA for purchasing.

2) Repair parts all available online for immediate customer purchase in stock USA for repair.

3) Repair manual proofread and in English.

4) Submitted to USA testing source like UL for through testing and documentation. CSA is not good enough.

5) do not use npt/bsp/ or compression fittings rather use sourced fittings from USA with high pressure face seal design.

An updated design should mean you had direct engineering input that you can demonstrate and not that you picked from a basket of alternates that add value ( perceived) so you proclaim " made exclusively for us for US market" Drawings are an absolute.

1-5 is all doable. I'll have to look into the cost for UL testing though as I have only had a brief experience with it. The stuff I have made is not electronic.

My contact is an engineer by trade. I don't get things made to make money. I get things made to buy them once and be done with it.

The sample build will be expensive, but hopefully I can come up with something that is good for all. It won't be locked down to a single dealer as I don't care to be the one that would have to ship them to everyone. My back cannot handle that anymore lol.

 

[flpcp]

you still would have to choose only one rifle .

That is true! I need to thin out the collection anyway.

 

[cosmic]

Ball bearing upper and lower on piston..

 

[PelletJunkie]

A bit of background: I work in import and private labeling. A lot of the compressors on the market look to be rebranded units from other makers from around the world.Most of them are mass produced but the parts can be upgraded at the factory they are made in.

Right now, I have one of my overseas contacts trying to source a high end compressor that will also fill the large tanks. While I don't expect to hear much until after the Chinese New Year, I think the same principles can be applied to these compressors as what I have custom made. We are talking upgraded parts and durability testing instead of some off the wall already made design with budget components.

So my question for all of you: If you got to choose every detail of a compressor, what would the things you would want to see in it? Think about the parts that normally break pr wear out quickly as this custom manufacturing can address those.

Once I have a list I will get one produced and run it through the ringer and see how it holds up against the named good compressors. Thoughts?

Flpcp

I'm following this thread as I am an trying to figure out what would be my next step after the YH. I hope this works out and please keep us posted.

-PJ

 

[Bernie7]

I’m admittedly coming into this with almost zero experience repairing a compressor so maybe I’m speaking out of turn but I would be interested in purchasing a purpose built unit as described in your post…

It seems like there’s certain components that regularly need to be replaced, so a design that maximizes ease of repair for when the time comes.

One of my favorite computers to fix used to be the old MacBooks. Remove the battery by twisting a quarter or penny in a slot in the bottom. Once that was out, only three screws to undo which allowed for both RAM and HD access for service/replacement. Of course sometimes there were more complicated repairs but 90% of problems were super simple.

Watching this thread, excited to see what is produced!

 

[Harv24]

And in the end, the only real choice is an Alkin.

 

[Heavyopp]

And in the end, the only real choice is an Alkin.

Generally I’m right there with you on buy once cry once with the Alkin but at over $4000 for their cheapest option I had to rethink that mindset.

I would bet most of us just don’t shoot enough to justify such an expense.

I ended up going yong heng. I can easily keep a yong heng running till there is a better, more cost effective option in the PCP compressor world.

 

[Healthservices]

Bauer compressor. Have something made along the jr2 line. I think there is a copy out there already. But have parts interchangeable with it so when something breaks. You can at the very least buy a real Jr 2 counterpart replacement piece in a bind from a local Bauer dealer and be running within a week rather than months. There seems to be a lot of Bauer dealers and repair facilities.


Allen

 

[SacShooter]

We sell the Alkin, I get the calls "I have killed X number of Chinese compressors" then they name off the compressors. X represents a number between one and 5. But I get it, the Alkin is very expensive, and the price goes up every year. If anyone has a Quality Chinese compressor that they want us to take a look at please send it over.

Roger
Air Tanks Plus

 

[Centercut]

And in the end, the only real choice is an Alkin.

I think Alkin is good, but the gold standard is Bauer. Coltri is also right up there. I have a "private label" HP Air Compressor that is an exact copy of a Bauer Junior 2, called an AireTex Mini Magnum that I've had for 2 1/2 years (25 hours run time) and has been flawless... Bruce Dodson in TX used to put his label on the Alkin (over 5 years ago), but now has his own compressors spec'd to a Chinese company (Compwell Compressors). If I put my AireTex next to a Bauer Junior 2 the only way to tell the difference is that mine is red and the Bauer is blue. Performance is identical, and reliability has been perfect....

 

[Trucker3573]

I’d just save and drop the coin on the compressor you know will last. Yeah 4k on the surface seems a lot but there are a lot of hobbies tons of people have way more invested into. Just go out on a lake once.

 

[Smitty911]

1-5 is all doable. I'll have to look into the cost for UL testing though as I have only had a brief experience with it. The stuff I have made is not electronic.

My contact is an engineer by trade. I don't get things made to make money. I get things made to buy them once and be done with it.

The sample build will be expensive, but hopefully I can come up with something that is good for all. It won't be locked down to a single dealer as I don't care to be the one that would have to ship them to everyone. My back cannot handle that anymore lol.

UL Testing is only one option. I just left a Test house after 19 years. UL listing is an option for the electrical part but there are other safety issues, that the company I used to work for could test as well and be a lot less expensive then UL.
PM if you're interested, I can put you in contact with the correct people.

Smitty

 

[zx10wall]

I think Alkin is good, but the gold standard is Bauer. Coltri is also right up there. I have a "private label" HP Air Compressor that is an exact copy of a Bauer Junior 2, called an AireTex Mini Magnum that I've had for 2 1/2 years (25 hours run time) and has been flawless... Bruce Dodson in TX used to put his label on the Alkin (over 5 years ago), but now has his own compressors spec'd to a Chinese company (Compwell Compressors). If I put my AireTex next to a Bauer Junior 2 the only way to tell the difference is that mine is red and the Bauer is blue. Performance is identical, and reliability has been perfect....

And @Crusher ‘s AireTex has also been going strong for 8 years! Not one problem. Man, I need to bite the bullet and get me a Mini Magnum!