FX Proposal to FX """""mainly"""", but for the benefit of other air rifle makers.

[Emu]

For any one that has the economic means to pay for US 1.5k - 2.3 k dollars for one of your rilfes, it would be the same to pay 100 - 150 dollars more if you could make a test on any rifle that you will send to the market to verify at 1000% at least the following:


- All pieces are dully tight.

- The rifle works properly.

- The rifle shots as accurately as you want your rifle to be identified.

- The rifle has no leaks at all.

- The trigger is tunned to works as light as possible but with absolutely security.

That way you could win a reputation of selling real quality rifles.

We as users would thank that, and such 100 - 150 extra dollars would have more value than the time, pellets and accesories we need to invest in an unfinished rifle to make it work properly.

That way we final users can clearly distinguish among a good purchase and a gamble.

 

[dens228]

The dislike towards FX within you is strong...............lol

 

[headsuwin]

I agree completely.

 

[Florida_Man]

I will add to your good points:

Expand to some solid barrels in your lineup. We will pay for it. You’re losing a part of the market. There are folks that don’t want to tinker and change all of our rifles. It won’t take away from people who want the versatility of the liners.

 

[Sqwirl57]

For $2000 all of that should be done already and included in the price....

 

[Stubbers]

My 2c:

FX is an airgun producer, not tuner.

You want your rifle looked over with a fine comb and tuned? There are members here that offer such services, employ them!

-Matt

 

[shambozzie]

Just buy from ken Hicks @ Spaw. You will receive a tested turn key unit. Mount scope or he can do that also. All the things you listed done and more.

 

[beerthief]

I believe AOA has a 10 check point for $10 deal on any gun you purchase includes shooting a target .

 

[ThomasT]

For any one that has the economic means to pay for US 1.5k - 2.3 k dollars for one of your rilfes, it would be the same to pay 100 - 150 dollars more if you could make a test on any rifle that you will send to the market to verify at 1000% at least the following:


- All pieces are dully tight.

- The rifle works properly.

- The rifle shots as accurately as you want your rifle to be identified.

- The rifle has no leaks at all.

- The trigger is tunned to works as light as possible but with absolutely security.

That way you could win a reputation of selling real quality rifles.

We as users would thank that, and such 100 - 150 extra dollars would have more value than the time, pellets and accesories we need to invest in an unfinished rifle to make it work properly.

That way we final users can clearly distinguish among a good purchase and a gamble.

Hello @Emu

Kind of like what you are saying, BUT, when a fellow pays 1.5K / 2.5K for a pellet gun, it SHOULD do EVERYTHING you listed, period. Why pay EXTRA for those items that should already be a part of the gun. I cannot tell you how many "off the shelf" 22LR powder burner target rifles I have purchased in the last 55+ years and ONLY had one (1) that I ever had to send back to the manufacture. AND I was not paying in the K's for those rifles which shot MOA. Yes I would have my local gun smith "go over" each rifle before I shot any competition with it, but you are talking couple hundred bucks for his expert work at most.

All pellet gun manufactures today are taking advantage of the consumers today and "they" know what they can ship out and get away with.

ThomasT

 

[Spinach]

For any one that has the economic means to pay for US 1.5k - 2.3 k dollars for one of your rilfes, it would be the same to pay 100 - 150 dollars more if you could make a test on any rifle that you will send to the market to verify at 1000% at least the following:


- All pieces are dully tight.

- The rifle works properly.

- The rifle shots as accurately as you want your rifle to be identified.

- The rifle has no leaks at all.

- The trigger is tunned to works as light as possible but with absolutely security.

That way you could win a reputation of selling real quality rifles.

We as users would thank that, and such 100 - 150 extra dollars would have more value than the time, pellets and accesories we need to invest in an unfinished rifle to make it work properly.

That way we final users can clearly distinguish among a good purchase and a gamble.

Why take a gamble? Especially with big bucks.
Just buy from a specialist guy who knows his stuff and communicates.

 

[Florida_Man]

I believe AOA has a 10 check point for $10 deal on any gun you purchase includes shooting a target .

I didn’t pay extra and my Revere Safari came with a target shot at the factory and another done by AoA.

 

[Vetmx]

The price of owning certain PCP’s comes at the cost of many pellets or pounds of slugs. The price of owning other PCP’s is 12 pellets to sight them in after you mount a scope. This isn’t 1980. All the information on these guns is out there. If you base your buying decisions off YouTube or some cherry picked groups on a forum, you get what you deserve. You can make a manufacturer up their game if you stop buying that product. The reason that hasn’t happened even to shoddy guns like Snowpeaks is because guys want, then get tunnel vision and only absorb the good when combing for info to justify their want. Then join a forum to cry about their purchase when things go bad. As long as guy’s believe everything they see and hear, the manufacturers will have you by the beanbag. So if I was Mr. FX or whoever else someone is mad at and was asked your question, my reply would be why? Things are fine from my standpoint.

 

[bigHUN]

I would agree with the OP question, but... realistically just picture this...
Any airguns leaving a factory in generic assembly tested for form and function;
Airing it up fully is happening when arrived first to the Dealers levels, and the piece price may include couple tests fired with generic specs;
Hard to find a Dealer that has a shooting range available to a user to test for a fit;
Even if you want to test a bicycle "performance" $300 worth of saddle, you will need to buy a first piece and eventually exchange it at later discretion;
Since we know that there are major differences between "people" and "people" imagine how hard is to gain a trust from the Dealer to land you a gun with in mind that a google mechanic will eventually return for exchange or direct lost of profit margin.
I can speculate much easier you to try and test a "gun" in your gun club at your convenience if anybody would land it to you for couple test shots.
I would definitely not give away my gun for a day or two to an unknown person, even if you could convince me I would prefer to "stay close".
Some people also trust certain "tuner" source, me not in that crowd.
I buy "factory sealed" boxes only, and to go to extremes, I have a friend that bought a Yamaha monster sport bike couple years ago in a crate and assemble it diy. He could not stand a feel that somebody else touched that bike at the Dealers display.
Are you a tinkerer and not afraid of a learning curve - buy FX.
If you not a tinkerer and not eager to learn tuning - don't buy FX .
Don't be an impulse buyer, do your own research.
What else me to add here?

 

[heavy-impact]

My 2c:
FX is an airgun producer, not tuner.
You want your rifle looked over with a fine comb and tuned? There are members here that offer such services, employ them!
-Matt

You are totally right. It's just crazy to expect manufacturers to do any sort of quality control. No one has time to test for leaks or make sure it functions as advertised, screw that sh!t together and throw it in a box. Gotta get that money.

 

[Stubbers]

You are totally right. It's just crazy to expect manufacturers to do any sort of quality control. No one has time to test for leaks or make sure it functions as advertised, screw that sh!t together and throw it in a box. Gotta get that money.

My bad...

All manufacturers send out guns that sometimes arrive empty due to a leak, lets just whip up some miracle that eliminates this entirely. I never want to hear about another gun arriving empty from any manufacturer from here on out, be it a 250$ gun or 2500$ gun!

Triggers being tuned to be as light as possible is not what everyone wants, you send it to a tuner for such detail, but you're right, let's make all triggers have 1 oz pulls. We don't need hunters or any enthusiasts in our hobby that desire heavier pulls!

Barrel lottery is a real thing, not all barrels are equal. Lets make another miracle that eliminates any intolerance so no barrel in the industry is 'pellet fussy', that way JSB, H&N, Crosman, and all other pellet manufactures can make one head size for them all!

The above doesn't fall under quality control honestly, those are all gambles and individual specific tuning desires...

-Matt

 

[Trucker3573]

Or….just buy one of the different brands this thread wasn’t mainly targeting. Problem solved.

 

[beerthief]

i believe this is called Acceptable losses to the bean counters in manufacturing . But Also FX impacts are made to tinker with , it is in the design.

 

[Emu]

I didn’t pay extra and my Revere Safari came with a target shot at the factory and another done by AoA.

That is Daystate..... I was talking to FX...

Daystate and Airgun Technology are assured quality and performance.

 

[Florida_Man]

That is Daystate..... I was talking to FX...

Daystate and Airgun Technology are assured quality and performance.

I was replying to @beerthief

 

[drsquall]

I have never owned a fx rifle of any sorts but have wanted to but have held off from stories on here and personal friends headaches with impacts. I love the looks of the impact but don't want the headache. Now I know of one person that likes his impact and has no issues as well. I know a few that shoot the royale and they are stellar and a couple with with dreamlines that have done well with them in FT. Right now I have a used RTI I bought that is being a pain and probably will sell it for a loss and never buy another RTI. All manufacturers can make a lemon here and there but with fx impacts seems much more common.