Proposed IL house bill is a direct threat to airgunners
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You folk in Illinois need to defeat this ridiculous bill. Just another attack on freedom. 
I will post this on another site that has folk in Illinois. Networking.
I will post this on another site that has folk in Illinois. Networking.
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Thank you for the heads up. For whatever it's worth, I used your link and sent him a message letting him know that I wasn't a fan of the bill. He's not in my district, but close.
To anyone else, I don't want to be on a soapbox or anything, but I think it would be a good idea to remember to be polite if we message him or any other politician. You could do it pragmatically thinking it might get through or you could do it out of human decency, but I've seen/heard some colorful rhetoric about real firearms that always feels a bit like a turn-off despite me being on the same side of the issue
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Until the Supreme Court rules FOID cards unconstitutional there's nothing you can do about it. Chicago can "count" as many ballots as they need to overrule the will of the people.
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UCChris - it may go down just like that. But if I don't at least try, I feel like I got what I deserved. And as bad as the current AWB is, it started even worse. Hard to imagine, I know...
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I left in IL in 2015 after living there for 59 years. It's never too late. I learned to vote with my feet. I went to MO for 3 years and now am in CO, but am looking to leave as the laws here are changing. To all the loudmouths who can't break the social media habit, especially those in states with less restrictive laws, keep talking about your full auto big bores, and moderators.
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Guys I Hate to say what i'm about to say and hopefully this doesn't get deleted by the mods, and ITruly do Not mean to ruffle any feathers,..
I have seen this coming for some time, and to be honest i am not surprised IL is one of the 1st to try to "impose' some form of restrictions on our hobby.
The minute we as air gunners started using just the few key words below the algorithms picked them up and brought them to attention of tree huggers behind such detection programs..
examples: semi-auto, full-auto, multi shot magazine, .50 cal, just to name a few.
Is it unfortunate, hell yes, but it is kind of self-inflicted...
There is No way the small airgun community can take on big government, we do not have the NRA backing us up..
Again , this is NOT intended to stir the pot, it is simply one man's opinion from Texas.
I have seen this coming for some time, and to be honest i am not surprised IL is one of the 1st to try to "impose' some form of restrictions on our hobby.
The minute we as air gunners started using just the few key words below the algorithms picked them up and brought them to attention of tree huggers behind such detection programs..
examples: semi-auto, full-auto, multi shot magazine, .50 cal, just to name a few.
Is it unfortunate, hell yes, but it is kind of self-inflicted...
There is No way the small airgun community can take on big government, we do not have the NRA backing us up..
Again , this is NOT intended to stir the pot, it is simply one man's opinion from Texas.
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This is why I live in Alabama, LOL. Open carry, no permit for concealed, unrestricted airgun use statewide (no city can restrict airgun use within its jurisdiction). Hope you all can survive up there in WOKE land.
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I know it looks like we are sliding into authoritarian communism. But I consider myself a keen observer, speculator and futurist. There's a good chance this pendulum swings hard the other way and we reassert our sovereignty under the constitution as originally intended. People are starting to get wise to a lot of corruption.
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New Jersey regulates airguns as firearms. I had no idea. I guess Illinois is just following along.
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Talk all you want,the true problem is not the politicians so much as people Not really getting involved with actually trying to stop the restrictive bills from passing.
The poster got involved by being informed and trying to inform others
Then we get the dodads that complain,and that all All they do is complain and nothing else ; dodas are actually worse than the politicians,
Talk all you want,it does nothing,informing others and actually taking action is called "Pro Active":..believe me it can be a learning process and quite frustrating.....but doing nothing is worse,
The poster got involved by being informed and trying to inform others
Then we get the dodads that complain,and that all All they do is complain and nothing else ; dodas are actually worse than the politicians,
Talk all you want,it does nothing,informing others and actually taking action is called "Pro Active":..believe me it can be a learning process and quite frustrating.....but doing nothing is worse,
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i am not positive, have not looked it up yet , but i was told that even .177 needs a foid card now if shooting 700 fps, even walmart does not sell any .177 's that shoot over 700 fps, i hope the info i was given is false for everyone using them , i only use 22 cal , (fat fingers & failing eyes) i was loading backwards too many times, & went to all 22 cal , infact i applied & got a FOID card almosst 10 yrs ago ,when i found out , that i was illegal with my danged pellet gun. i have had foid cards before , but let them expire because i didn't have time or place to shoot 22 LR ..
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The wonderful people of Pennsylvania not only elected an obviously incapacitated, incoherent Senator who is now in a psych ward but also a dead state Representative by a landslide!
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As the law stands now,any .177 is okay,regardless of velocity. Anything .22 and over and under 700 fps is okay.
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I suppose I could ask you the same thing. Who's your newest Senator?
Why did that happen? Was it maybe because you were outnumbered by a large margin and no matter what you might have done would have been done in vain?
What people who ask these questions don't seem to realize is that some states are so profoundly blue that those voters simply overwhelm conservatives.
Look at California; it's such a dark blue state that our tyrant of a Governor doesn't even have to campaign.
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I asked you only because you brought it up first. But your point is well taken. I push for our rights every opportunity I get. 
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Again, guys who live in places like Idaho just don't get it.You folk in Illinois need to defeat this ridiculous bill. Just another attack on freedom.
I will post this on another site that has folk in Illinois. Networking.
The reason these laws get passed, or even considered, is because the sate legislatures are composed mainly of the opposing party. You will not change their minds.
Think of it this way, if you were a state legislator who wanted to promote 2nd amendment issues and suddenly a small contingent of anti-2nd amendment protestors wanted you to change your mind, would you? Of course not, you'd tell them to go kick rocks.
And that's the way it is with state legislatures that are so powerful (like California) that there really is nothing to be done.
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But again, I didn’t vote for him. In fact I know of only one other person in Pennsylvania that did. Large numbers of people in cities can readily carry a state majority (Captain Obvious).
I recently received a minor “notice” from a moderator for a post that was significantly less political than the majority in this thread. So......
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