Proposed IL house bill is a direct threat to airgunners
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Your post makes no sense at all. You admonish those who escape the restrictive policies of blue states to stand up and vote, and in the same breath accuse them of screwing up your life because you think they're bring blue state baggage into your "good red state".
Without exception, anyone I've known who has moved out of California has done so because they wish to get out from under the heavy authoritarian hand of blue state legislators. I'm glad for them, but not everyone can do it.
I think what's hard for many people to swallow when it comes to others who "screw up" your lives in "good red sates" is that the youth of today vote and are heavily invested in social media and other platforms that promote a certain brand of progressive ideology. And it's not just young people, look at Arizona, it's not the people who escape California voting for those who currently run that state, it's legacy voters who are doing that.
It's a bitter pill, but there you have it.
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Oh I get it alright. The revolution that happened in 1775 was over the price of tea. You guys are losing your rights.I asked you only because you brought it up first. But your point is well taken. I push for our rights every opportunity I get.
Which do you think is worse?
Oh I get it alright. The war of 1775 was fought over the price of tea. You guys are losing your rights.
Which do you think is worse? OK, 1775 was about rights too, but I think I made my point.
California is a travesty run into the ground by powerful people that only want more.
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Yeah, I'm going to back out of this thread before I get too political. Last note, invite people out with you to show them how much fun airgunning can be. Be an ambassador, teach youngsters to shoot. Lastly, do your research before voting. Teach others to do the same. Use logic.
Peace Out.
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Yeah, we do all of that. And believe it or not, we actually vote for those who represent our interests. You’re preaching to the choir.
What I think you’re failing to understand is that we are, in states like California, severely outnumbered. Again, guys who live in places like Idaho can’t seem to get this.
You’ll see this strange attitude on places like gunbroker where some sellers will refuse to sell to Californians. I suppose it’s somehow to punish us because we’re so outnumbered. But what they don’t seem to realize is that they have played into the hands of our anti-gun legislators and are themselves no more than the other party’s useful Idiots who, by proxy, carry out the very edicts they despise.
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It's the same here in Missouri. Just remember if it can happen there it can happen here. Stay vigilant!
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Actually I know a bit more about California than you give me credit.
If LA Frisco and San Diego vanished along with certain government officials California would be a lot more normal.
I understand completely about your being outnumbered. They don't call it the land of fruits and nuts for nothing.
I'm biting my tongue here trying to stay non political.
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Do you know about The Battle of Athens? Real life US history that show voters don't matter but vote counters do. That was a long time ago, now it's down to a science. A person just can't say that you voted for it anymore.
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Probably a lot closer than you think.
Unlike all those swing state elections that somehow always turn out to be a win by less than 0.5% ... funny how people are supposedly so perfectly divided.
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You mean were a group of WW II vets exposed crooked voting and physically over powered them proving they were stealing the election? Nope, never heard of it.
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As mentioned, you folk need to put your foot down and stop the steal. I do know that's what is going on.
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I know, they are going to get our firearms eventually. They will start taxing each gun we own to the point where we don't want to keep them. It will be really tough for people like me that have 30+ firearms. But air guns really?
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Agreed , we can vote all we want BUT , if you're still the minority it doesn't matter ! I've retired from a profession the took me from sea to shining sea, shore to shore . I took my adult "toys" w/ me where ever I legally could. I checked on that before departing the home front. I had low to mid level security clearance on many military bases and the Pentagon. I met many good , interesting people along the way . We all learned a great deal about the attitudes of "toy" use and ownership of our countrymen & women . I've met many people ( including LEO 's ) that have fled their home states , usually after retirement, for the same reason , you can't win a majority w/ a minority vote. I am not a conspiracy theorist , although we do need to keep up w/ our local government through the state reps and tell them our position on these issues or we will be trampled but those that will do so . Our last election had me wanting to write in John Wayne , Sergeant York & Captain Kangaroo for office ( yeah I'm that old) !
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Yes the law is a real pain. Ebay won't ship any airguns over .177 to Illinois. It's not fun being a resident!
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Yes really. To the liberals a gun is a gun. It doesn't matter if it's an AR15 or a single shot air gun. They want to take them all!
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