Exactly. Their claims seem like wishful thinking. Is any of the claim for .5 pumps required true?
Maybe I want one.
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Pulling the trigger today, Umarex Origin PCP any good?
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Exactly. Their claims seem like wishful thinking. Is any of the claim for .5 pumps required true?
Maybe I want one.
Well that gun will server you very well! And no point looking for other options.
When I first started I got a similar gun and realized soon after a regulator was a nice upgrade. And it was.
As far a the regulator goes it's a argument of consistanc, shots per fill and time shootin vs filing. With a regulator you can fill the gun all the way up and placing all the shots in a tight group. I can fill a unregulated gun to where it shoots it's best but soon will have to refill to stay in the sweet spot.
Like I said if you're only shooting squirrels at 25 yrds you wont notice anything. At 60-100 yards you will.
When I first started I got a similar gun and realized soon after a regulator was a nice upgrade. And it was.
As far a the regulator goes it's a argument of consistanc, shots per fill and time shootin vs filing. With a regulator you can fill the gun all the way up and placing all the shots in a tight group. I can fill a unregulated gun to where it shoots it's best but soon will have to refill to stay in the sweet spot.
Like I said if you're only shooting squirrels at 25 yrds you wont notice anything. At 60-100 yards you will.
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Sorry peep,
I didnt mean to take your post off topic. I think that gun is going to serve you well.
I often look at a gun and see if its upgradable and how easy it is to get parts.
I didnt mean to take your post off topic. I think that gun is going to serve you well.
I often look at a gun and see if its upgradable and how easy it is to get parts.
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Even the Walther Reign owners shooting only 25 yards max don't notice a 100+ fps spread such as MikeVV who never needs to worry about buying a Chrony as long as his guns shoot good at 25 yards. I can see and understand his point. Not knowing some things is less stress in life main thing you hit your targets at up to the set max backyard distance.
Peep here is only shooting 15 yards max. He'd probably want to chop the barrel and air tube to make it much shorter. He should chop from the breech end.
I would buy a 177 as my first choice then 22 as my second choice.
Peep here is only shooting 15 yards max. He'd probably want to chop the barrel and air tube to make it much shorter. He should chop from the breech end.
I would buy a 177 as my first choice then 22 as my second choice.
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When I started off with one of my first PCPs an unregulated Falcon FN12 Light Hunter it had a 50fps spread on its bell curve and I actually did fine up to 65 - 75 yards counting shots and holdover then under to compensate for POI at different bell curve speed. Didn't even have a manometer.
The regulated Daystate CR97 I bought a few months after that gave regulator problems twice in its first few months then again just at the Just past one year mark and bought it new for $1600 at that time around sometime in 1997 and I had not touched anything and just shot it less than 500 rounds.
The regulated Daystate CR97 I bought a few months after that gave regulator problems twice in its first few months then again just at the Just past one year mark and bought it new for $1600 at that time around sometime in 1997 and I had not touched anything and just shot it less than 500 rounds.
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I have the Umarex Origin and it's a great rifle. I been messing with the hammer spring a little. The stock is nice and it's not hollow like those other rifles. It's very light and would make a great hunting rifle in the field. Pumping the rifle to 3500 psi is not that bad. I take breaks in between pumps for the pump to cool off. It is a work out!!! This rifle don't have a reg and I feel it doesn't need one. With that system Umarex is using in this acts like a reg in a way. YOU have to find that sweet spot where the rifle works best.
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Well, I have to agree with you JimNM for the most part.
I've been shooting AG's since 1975, and PCP's since they first came out around 1988. I ordered my first three PCP's directly from the UK. (Nothing available here in the USA at the time). A Sportsmatch GC2, Theoben Rapid7, and a Logan mk1, which later became FX.
After owning some 50 PCP's from most of the manufacturers over the past 32 years, most of which were of course unregulated, I have to say that they were really just as accurate to me as my more recent collection of high end regged guns from the likes of Edgun, FX, Kalibrgun, AGT, Ataman, Styre, AA, Daystate, Diana. (I may have forgot 1 or 2) Lol.
I do indeed like the better efficiency of the reg, and the elimination of the old pressure bell curve that we used to have to calculate for optimum shot count, but that benefit does come with a negative impact in regards to more complexity, and points of failure, and some frustration with reliability.
Like Jim said, a little over rated!
JMHO ONLY!!
Scott
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So going back to the op that doesn’t sound like he cares to hear the regulator argument,
the origin looks like a fun rifle. It’s differences are based on having a pre charged cylinder (like a gas ram in a break barrel) that sits in the air cylinder. As you pump it up, it pushes against the gas ram also meaning you can have less pumps to get to a full power shot. However, I see the pumps being tougher from the get go as opposed to a standard rifle, but if you’re looking to hand pump only, it would be a great choice.
that being said, I’ve heard a LOT of horror stories about the hand pumps failing VERY prematurely, so if you go this route, it looks like a decent hand pump purchase will be needed. Good luck!
the origin looks like a fun rifle. It’s differences are based on having a pre charged cylinder (like a gas ram in a break barrel) that sits in the air cylinder. As you pump it up, it pushes against the gas ram also meaning you can have less pumps to get to a full power shot. However, I see the pumps being tougher from the get go as opposed to a standard rifle, but if you’re looking to hand pump only, it would be a great choice.
that being said, I’ve heard a LOT of horror stories about the hand pumps failing VERY prematurely, so if you go this route, it looks like a decent hand pump purchase will be needed. Good luck!
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I shot an Origin last week. The gun was purchased through Umarex USA with promo codes that left the total price well under $300. So I think $399 may be overpriced, especially since most retailers seem to have the gun between $299 and $349.
The gun shot well with inexpensive 14.3 grain Crosman Hollow Points and I was impressed with how smooth the sidelever operated. I own two Nova Liberty's (which are made by the same manufacturer) and the cycling on the Origin blows it away. The stock is also very nice.
The pump that came with the gun was junk. My $30 AliExpress pump performed much better.
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Umarex Origin shot string.
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/here-are-some-numbers-for-the-umarex-origin/?referrer=1
https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/here-are-some-numbers-for-the-umarex-origin/?referrer=1
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