Because my experience is limited to & based upon DOT tanks & only had 2 failures (not "explosions") in 30+ years. Can't speak to CE tanks. Never said I don't trust CE, just outside my realm of experience.
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question about carbon fiber tanks
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What makes a larger bottle so much more dangerous than the pressure vessel on the gun, in which most are not certified?
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You guys sure do like to argue a lot. lmao
I think it's safe to assume , we won't all be siting around a campfire singing Kumbaya anytime in the near future.
I think it's safe to assume , we won't all be siting around a campfire singing Kumbaya anytime in the near future.
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It’s all the same stuff man. I’ve noticed the airgun industry is a professional when it comes to literally slapping a name on something and upping the price 2-3 fold
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It’s exactly how you said It earlier man. It’s just a way to crank up the prices on their tanks. I want to start a company and sell tanks at a lower price. I’m thinking of manufacturing airgun accessories and carbon fiber tanks. Some of the prices I see on simple stuff is kind boggling. Seen bipods for $300, seen that they made a gun rest for the SKOUT epoch specifically and priced it at $400. And they say that it’s priced competitively. You will see rich folk come on here and defend it out of pure ego. That’s how these companies keep getting away with it it’s just sad
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Also ik I come on here and complain about prices A LOT. Ik it can be irritating. But I seriously want to try to make a difference in this industry to help folks a little less fortunate such as myself. I just can’t stand when people get screwed. I hope one day I can do something similar to Buck Rail and make parts for a fair price.
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I Agree with you. Being in the Fire Equipment & service industry for a long time has allowed me to get most of my air equipment & peripherals for next to nothing or free. Never had to pay for a tank & given many away free to airgunning friends. Even if I sold stuff I never tried to rip anyone off. Doesn't mean I'm not aware of their value but also means I'm aware of production costs too. I've always tried to get the most for my $ but always with safety being of prime concern. Drives me nuts when I see the prices of tanks & equipment from places like the one that ba49 mentioned above. Imho it almost borders on gouging, IMHO. Businesses have to make $, of course, but there's reasonable profit & then there's greed. Such is the way of the world nowadays. ME, ME, ME, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!
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I just try to buy American and stay away from ccp its not about quality to me .
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Let me just say this... this thread is the reason I don't share everything I choose to do. I prefer not to be judged for my choices. many here may also do things I wouldn't do but that's ok too. You do you and I'll do me. mmmkay?
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I don’t see anything wrong with this. It’s a discussion.
If this thread bothers anybody make sure you don’t wander to other forums, you will be psychologically hurt.
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I don't see it as arguing but making people actually support their "opinions". If you want to claim that your actions are superior unsupported by any facts you should get called out.
Then there is the unadulterated bull puckey fear mongering. "ooooo scary pcp gonna kill us all, oooooo".
That level of ignorance is tiresome, especially couched in unwarranted superiority.
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Yeah, we've been round-and-round on this topic for years!
We have those that want new only, others that are cool with used but want current hydro, others that are OK with used but good visual condition but hydros expired, then the Chinese made with CE or even no marks like 99% of aluminum tubes.
I'm good with you doin' what you want to do.
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Myself I think I just posted what I use. The pomposity of those that insist the stuff I use is inferior and unsafe.
Here’s my thought I don’t give a f. . . If they sell it and it’s cheaper and actually does the same thing I’ll try it.
Always entertained by the Safety Sams . We could have a stickie with the subjects they warn and worry about .
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"I am superior because I spent more money for X. Here is my baseless rationale as to why"
In the case of tanks, simple easy to grasp logic. The Europeans are not allowing in any way shape or form tanks that could be considered unsafe to be sold with CE certification.
DOT is a more costly test and inspection regimen than CE. But it is a standard developed by committee. A committee of industry insiders. As always when looking at standards like DOT for tanks always ask "who profits". In this case the industry insiders that are paid to perform expensive, time consuming and complex test and inspection regimen. Or are paid to certify others performing those regimen.
Look at how the various ISO standards change every couple years requiring a full recertification audit to the new version.
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You know guys opinions are like A-Holes, everyone has one. I never said you are wrong to trust less expensive stuff or you shouldn't use expired tanks, your decision. My big tank(DOT) is now expired but I fill it so it's on me if it fails. Would I fill an expired tank for someone else NO. Would I fill or use a non DOT tank for myself or others no. But I also won't encourage or tell someone new or inexperienced to do it either. I don't care what others do but I also don't advise others to break regulations to save money. I would not want that responsibility.
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See here is where your comment falls apart. The only ones posting opinions are the people who feign knowledge with regard to the quality of tanks simply due to the standard to which the tanks were tested and inspected.
I'll ask this again, in a different way, present an argument that supports your view as to the inferiority of tanks certified as CE. What makes you belive they are not as good as a DOT certified tank?
I'll ask this again, in a different way, present an argument that supports your view as to the inferiority of tanks certified as CE. What makes you belive they are not as good as a DOT certified tank?
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Exactly how I feel! And trust and believe I am
Aware of your generosity. The price you gave me on that chronny was more of a gift than a sale. If only some of these manufacturers had a heart like yours haha. And don’t get me wrong I get that they are in business to make profit . But yes as you said at one point it just becomes downright offensive with some of the crap they pull. I am actually looking to get into CNC machining really soon. If things work out one day I’d like to start my own company. Hope to change the game so more can fall in love with this sport as I have.
I come from firearms and before I thought airguns were a joke. Now that I’ve delved deeper into this I can 100% say I have more respect for airguns. Airguns are like the underdog. And it’s coming to a point now where they are almost able to go head to head with the pb market which blows my mind!!
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