Question about Triggers in general

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fredbutters

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I'm looking for an air pistol to start teaching my son how to shoot safely. I just tried two air pistols and ended up returning both. The Beretta APX full size, and the Glock 17 gen 3 (Umarex). Both looked and felt great, but they both had very rough triggers and ultimately I wasn't enjoying shooting either one.

Is this just to be expected with how a magazine fed BB gun operates, or are there some CO2 blowback air pistols out there with smooth, light triggers?

I appreciate any help or recommendations.

Thanks!
 
most all mag style pistols have very bad triggers

and the blow back ones are some of the worst

there is too many moving parts to allow the trigger to be light

even a S&W 586 has a stiff trigger but it is a great pistol

one of the lighter triggers is on the old Gamo R-77, and you can find them cheap sometimes on Ebay 40 to 60 bucks is a good price and there is new PR-776 isn't bad but the trigger is a little heavier

now remember if it looks like an auto or a wheel gun, all the pistol have the same style moving parts

of course these are my observations

a Crosman 2240 might be your best choice at first and can be built to any spec you want and could be a great project for a father and son
 
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I have numerous pistols , both new and old and one of my favorite is the Walter cp99. I bought it used and it had a horrible trigger. I lubed it best I could but it didn't help. I kept shooting it and after about 3-400 pellets it has a very smooth pull . Not like the hard and sometimes sticking trigger before . So I guess my advice is buy a guality made pistol for your son and don't give up on it and don't put it down. Ron 
 
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It probably would not hurt to keep in mind that it costs quite a bit just to build a truly good trigger. So when you are buying a pistol or a rifle the total cost of the purchase has to be considered by the manufacturer. Plinker priced guns are going to have plinker quality triggers. Target priced guns are going to have target quality triggers. 
 
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No...you DO NOT need a PCP gun (expensive gun and more with all of the peripheral equipment needed) to get a good trigger.

I have both a FAS 6004 (single pump) and Beeman P1 (springer). Both have adjustable triggers. Both can be adjusted to very light to lightly hard. Both can be adjusted for lett-off distance, The FAS 6004, you can even move the trigger back and forth slightly...smaller hands vs. larger hands.

Both are single shot, more "target" oriented designs, with the Beeman P1 having a lower frame that very closely resembles a 1911 Colt 45.

Both guns are easy to shoot, both guns are accurate. These two things might keep up the interest as he can see that your son is the deciding factor for accuracy, the gun is accurate in it's own right.

And DON'T...let anyone whine about the "springer" gun. People seem to whine about the guns having recoil going both to the front and rear. NOT overtly noticeable in the P1. Smooth and easy to shoot.

Have fun.

Mike
 
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It probably would not hurt to keep in mind that it costs quite a bit just to build a truly good trigger. So when you are buying a pistol or a rifle the total cost of the purchase has to be considered by the manufacturer. Plinker priced guns are going to have plinker quality triggers. Target priced guns are going to have target quality triggers.
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This^. Some have mentioned different types of guns than what you have sought for teaching your son. Those guns can have better triggers because of their design but they do not accomplish what you hinted at in your original post-namely teaching your son to handle an air gun that resembles a firearm safely by using a "replica" type pistol. The type you are selecting will generally have the most complicated and therefore probably least "smooth" triggers found on air pistols. Sadly, it seems that what you suggest you want (a replica type magazine fed/CO2 powered gun) will usually come with a less than stellar trigger. Good luck in finding something that works for you and your son.
 
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To the OP. For what you are looking to accomplish I would actually recommend and airsoft blowback replica. Much more detail is put into accurate replication of the real steel operation. The guns tend to operate more closely to the real ones, breakdown and clean in a similar manner, have good blowback operation, pretty decent triggers, etc. 

I don't want to derail the thread into a conversation on airsoft pistols, but if you'd like a recommendation please PM me as I've got quite a lot of experience in airsoft.
 
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If you want to watch a really great video on how airsoft can translate directly into real steel training, watch this all the way through. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQDfwyUgtjg

It's long, but you'll get sucked in at how fast this guy from Japan who had only ever shot airsoft (guns are completely illegal in Japan) picked up real steel and was putting down some amazing reaction and shooting times.
 
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