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Solo:

I’m shooting a Redwolf that I won last October at Extreme Benchrest. Awesome accuracy, great trigger, balances well, outstanding shot count, never had a problem in over 20,000 pellets shot at this point. I’m currently leading the AAFTA Gran Prix points total with it in Hunter Class.

Is it better that a Thomas? Is Ford, Chevy, or Toyota better at a NASCAR race? Depends on who is driving. Like Motörhead said, more or less, you can not buy a win.

Having said all that; a guy beat me with a Thomas at the Carolina Classic last month. I beat about 5 other people shooting a Thomas. At the Cajun Classic in April the Daystate Redwolf won 1st and 2nd in Hunter class and 1st in WFTF. The Redwolf also won both the 25 yard and 50 yard Benchrest events.

So, if I remember the original question, yes there are Redwolf shooters doing well with their chosen rifles.

Art “Podna” Womack
 
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I love my Daystate Red Wolf!

I shoot Hunter Field Target (AAFTA) and have had great success with it. For the last 2.5 years it has been a very reliable accurate rifle. I have had to do nothing but clean it occasionally, charge the battery every couple of months, and feed it pellets and air. I am amazed how accurate it is- missed shots are 99% of the time my fault. I have shot record scores with my RW, often taking high score over all classes.

The Thomas is also an amazing rifle and I have total respect for that platform. More often than not it is a Daystate or a Thomas taking the top spots on the podium for Hunter class Field Target.

At the end of the day I think it comes down to personal preference and knowing your rifle. I won Nationals with a used unregulated Gen 1 Marauder and UTG scope. Not that I had the best rig on the field, but I knew the gun very well- what it liked and didn't like, it's fill sweet spot, etc. I learned consistency with the equipment I had and used it to the best of my ability. The same will happen with any rifle you purchase. You have to break it in-and break yourself in! It takes a lot of time and practice but is totally worth it. The most common cause of missed shots is the person behind the trigger!

Moving from a Marauder to a Red Wolf, what I love about it is the ballance and feel of the rifle. It fits so well when I'm holding it. I love the electronic trigger which I will argue is one of the best in the market. Light and predictable- like clicking a mouse button. The barrel is not fussy and can go thousands of shots between cleaning. And of course the stock is drop dead gorgeous!

I have shot in pouring rain and gotten it very wet with no performance issues. I use the stock tune that came from Airguns of Arizona and have not needed a programer. Only time I have experienced accuracy issues is when I let the battery get too low once. I shoot 4 times a week and only have to charge the battery every couple of months or so. (or before a big match)

An upper tier air rifle is a big purchase so choosing what fits you best is important. I love my RW and have envy of nothing else!

@DeadEyeNC
 
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thanks podna and phelpernc for responding. ive been shooting a maverick in hft for the last year and have had constant up and down results never consistent and have probably shot over 10,000 pellets thru 4 different barrels and always the same results and have been unsure of the electronics( electricity’s not my friend) but have bit the bullet and ordered a redwolf in walnut( couldn’t be a red 1) and will see where my scores go
 
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Some of the guns that are seen commonly in FT require work to get them to perform well over temperature changes. They suffer from poi changes that make them unsuitable they way they come. They can be fixed or they can be studied and the shooter can adapt to them. I had a friend that bought a Steyr and was actually a good shooter in the mornings after sight in….but missed all the long shots later in the day. He went 2 seasons believing he needed to improve his conditioning so he could maintain his skill throughout the day. His gun was shifting poi with temperature. On some days that had pretty constant temps after sight in he did very well. So there is one problem that people rarely look for in a FT gun….but is a big cause of dropped points.

The second problem is velocity change over temperature. All mechanical guns shoot faster when it gets hot and slower when it gets cold…..except a Thomas. I do not know if the electronic RedWolf is compensating for temp and adjusting. If it does….that will certainly help a shooter vs using a mechanical gun that does not compensate.

Consistently knocking down targets in FT requires a gun that does shift poi during a match or change velocity during a match. ….or it requires that the shooter know when to expect these changes and manually compensate for them. FT is not a pure accuracy game like BR…but a more accurate gun certainly won’t hurt.

Find out if a redwolf will hold poi and maintain velocity over a 50 degree temp change. I don’t know the answer to that, and somebody simply telling you that they won a match with one won’t tell you that, either. If it will….it’s likely a good gun for Hunter FT. Any gun that is perfectly stable and will maintain velocity over temp change will be much better than one that won’t….even if their accuracy at a given temp is similar.

New shooters do not need more things to think about. New shooters do the absolute best when they do not have to think about compensating for the gun or scope. They have limited bandwidth and need all of it to focus on shooting.

Mike
 
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thanks thomasair for your reply. this is something i began to think was a problem with all the loosly fit parts in the barrel of the fx as 1 time my shroud loosened slightly and it changed everything. i thought by tightening things more and adding a heavier lw barrel it would cure this but it didn’t. as you said of your friend it almost always seemed to be later in the match when things warmed that a problem would crop up. a reason that i was a little worried about in the redwolf was that a lot of guys said they tried them but not that many said they still had 1
 
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Original post by Solo1 - "Just wondering how many guys that bought a redwolf for field target still have them and are happy with that purchase and the gun or do you wish you bought a thomas?"

Just so there is no confusion, I in no way meant any disrespect to Thomas Air Rifles. They are without a doubt a very fine piece of engineering, are well made, and have won many FT competitions regardless of class. I even know of one that was built, on purpose and by design, in those god awful LSU colors, purple and gold, and even that one shoots like a laser.

The original question was, "do you wish you had bought a Thomas?" The answer for me is no. While I have not specifically tested for POI shift due to temperature changes, I have not noticed any over the course of the winter, spring, and now what most people would consider summer ever if the calendar says it isn't summer for another 11 days. I last zeroed my Redwolf in early April just before the Cajun Classic after changing scopes from another rifle to this one. I have not adjusted it since, even after hauling it somewhere around 3500 miles on the interstate system that sometimes seems like driving across the moon.

My two cents.

Art "Podna" Womack
Team Wolfpack
 
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Solo1 said:
thanks motorhead i get what you’re saying. i guess personally i expected to hear the thomas in a showdown might have an edge in accuracy. if im spending this kind of money on an air gun in 177 (which i can’t even hunt with in pa) i expect to be a laser! lol just hard sometimes saying its the shooter or the gun you know? lol
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I have the Heliboard in my Redwolfs and 12 power settings trust me you can hunt small game with a .177 16.2 grn pellet at 950fps.
 
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Well got my new redwolf in 177 in walnut and while i haven’t shot it outside yet ( too windy) i have shot it inside at 11 yds and it shoots really well at that range if your good enough you could shoot all the numbers on a 10 m target out! probably put a whole tin of pellets thru the 10 ring with no problem and do it from bucket and styx ! while its not a powerhouse tuned to 18.5 fpe it is very accurate and easy to shoot at least at this range. happy so far
 
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Solo1 said:
Well got my new redwolf in 177 in walnut and while i haven’t shot it outside yet ( too windy) i have shot it inside at 11 yds and it shoots really well at that range if your good enough you could shoot all the numbers on a 10 m target out! probably put a whole tin of pellets thru the 10 ring with no problem and do it from bucket and styx ! while its not a powerhouse tuned to 18.5 fpe it is very accurate and easy to shoot at least at this range. happy so far
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18.5 is similar to my setup and I prefer just under 19 fpe. Sometimes less is more when it comes to accuracy. Too much energy can actually make a .177 pellet less accurate depending on the rifle. At the end of the day I'm much more concerned about accuracy over power. As long as you are under 20 fpe for AAFTA hunter class I say roll with it!
 
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1st 2 groups @ 55 yds in a slight variable breeze off styx. i think you might be right phelper
 
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well for anyone keeping tabs or wondering how this turned out its all smiles. Shot my first match today with the red wolf and while i did not win (lol) i did come in on a fairly close race in fourth. i have a few minor adjustments to make and need to be a bit more aware of the wind but with this rifle i know when i miss its not the gun!
 
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