R Gas Ram Air Rifles Harder on Scopes Than Springers?

[HeyU]

Hey AGN. I ask because when I got back into shooting airguns I bought a 22cal Hatsan 105 Torpedo? A very powerful,heavy gas ram. After it ate 3 or 4 of my scopes and I never could get it to settle down and shoot a consistent group. Tried multiple pellets and holds and trigger squeezes I sent it back. Later I came across a video,The Topic,Gas Ram Air rifles that had Rick Eutsler Jr in it along with Tom Gaylord and another in a sort of round table discussion. And Rick brought up this scope killing aspect with gas ram air-rifles.What say you?

 

[Odoyle]

Yup scope killer so go buy the Diana Bullseye mount.

 

[thumper]

I don't think the powerplant is inherently hard on scopes. The thing is most gas ram rifles are all "super magnum" power level guns. And at that power level, in a lightweight gun, it's gonna be hard on scopes regardless of spring or ram. Just my opinion. 

When's the last time you saw a low or medium power gas ram? 

 

[DualMagMike]

My Theoben Sirocco Deluxe and 2 SLR's are under 15fpe, numerous other Theoben are also in that range.

 

[thumper]

My Theoben Sirocco Deluxe and 2 SLR's are under 15fpe, numerous other Theoben are also in that range.

They aren't exactly readily available or common though.

Are they exceptionally hard on scopes? 

 

[Ripper]

My Hatsan Gas ram Never broke my UTG scope. And it had a lot of Recoil To it. But I have heard of them breaking scopes that were made for magnum powder burners. I guess it’s the double recoil that does it.

 

[c_m_shooter]

They are about the same as similar power spring guns. What scopes specifically did you have problems with? It is pretty well known on here that UTG and Hawke scopes work pretty well and have good warranties for the price.

 

[Parrotculler]

They are about the same as similar power spring guns. What scopes specifically did you have problems with? It is pretty well known on here that UTG and Hawke scopes work pretty well and have good warranties for the price.

UTG Leapers hold up well, even on magnum gas rams. Another that holds up remarkably well is the cheapo Chinese rangefinder/xmas tree reticle scope in 4-16*44.

But I killed a new hawke vantage after 10 shots on my Gamo Hunter Magnum. The reticle simply snapped.

Get a bullseye mount ... They go for around 15 smackers on aliexpress.

 

[Septicdeath]

Put red dots on you Magnums. You will never kill one. Dont expect tiny little groups but you'll hit what your shooting at every time. I have 17 dots on my springer. 3 SeeAll Mk1, 2 are scoped. All the others I have iron sights.

 

[blackdiesel]

I only use UTG and Centerpoint scopes on my springers. Both have lifetime warranties, but I've never broke one. 

 

[hkshooter]

RX2 with Beeman 66R in a Beeman one piece mount for years. No trouble.

 

[DonC]

I don't think the powerplant is inherently hard on scopes. The thing is most gas ram rifles are all "super magnum" power level guns. And at that power level, in a lightweight gun, it's gonna be hard on scopes regardless of spring or ram. Just my opinion. 

When's the last time you saw a low or medium power gas ram?

You are right Thumper, most gas rams are high power kits. But, I have the exception. It's Diana 340 N-Tec walnut stocked rifle. It 17 smooth ft/lbs and as accurate as a TX200 or HW77/97. The trigger is perfect! As good as Record. It's a TO6 but with slight improvements. Adjust to your preference

 

[DualMagMike]

Did not know the thread was just about readily available or common and they are around. To be honest I have NEVER broken a single scope in well over 30 years of shooting springers and I have a lot of springers.

 

[DualMagMike]

Unless something has changed an email directly from Hawke states the Vantage line is for piston guns only up to 12fpe!

 

[JayJay]

Red dots are great. They're recoil-proof, inexpensive and light. Some get down to 4 ounces which is good for a hunting gun. You can use them with both eyes open, which is an an improvement over iron sights. If you have good eyesight and get one with a micro dot (2 MOA) they can be surprisingly accurate. I had one for a while on my HW95, and could easily put pellets inside a 3/4" circle at 15 yards. However, I had to use binoculars to see just where the pellets were hitting. I ended up putting the scope back on.