R5m Slug shooting , Stock fell apart and only half stock remained on tripod

[jwrabbit123]

HI today went out shooting some HN 30 gr slugs with My R5M first group 75 yards second group 150 yards , all shooting done with out holding for wind , and this was done with a Second focal plane scope ,I am trying out ,Swarovski Z8i 4wl reticle , when I went to snap pictures of targets , Gun was on ground while stock was in tripod still , it just fell apart , time to email Edgun west . ugg , luckily scope did not get damaged , boy this is accurate gun , tomarrow I will post more groups LOU

75 yard no wind hold wind blowing 8mph left to right

150 yard no wind hold was going 8mph left to right , 

scope reticle and mounted on gun

 

[Yo]

I have an extra red laminate r5m stock or walnut pm me. YO!

 

[Bleudg]

Lou,

The way you are supporting the entire weight of the gun on that forward mount might have caused that to happen. Sorta like the “Tail wagging the dog”. 

 

[mtnGhost]

The synthetic stocks are supposed to be strong. I'm looking at the one I put on my R5 long right now, there's a little bit of give to it supporting the weight from the front, but not enough that I would have thought it would break like that

 

[jwrabbit123]

I support all my guns on a tripod no it should not fail , it is only balancing gun , no force , ed did a Video of them running over gun and his friends jumping on the stock , so no it must be a defect , I did messege Brian at edgun west , to see what He says LOU



These were EDs Videos , they could not break one trying to , mine broke balancing on tripod ,I know ED builds strong stuff this one must of had a flaw when molded look here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7fNn7e5o_8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8PHsc_SKlg

 

[Cranky1]

I thought the synthetic stocks were a two piece so you just had to change fore end to go from a long to standard

 

[AirgunnerPCP]

There still is a moment and force in that system with the gun essentially cantilevered like that. A lot of the tripod setups I've seen have the mount a bit closer to the center of gravity of the gun. I'd agree with you though, I don't think it should have failed though.

 

[Yo]

None of my Edguns have synthetic stocks so I can't comment on their strength but why would anyone want a synthetic stock for an Edgun? Not bashing just curious is all. YO!

 

[jwrabbit123]

 no the synthetic stock was an upgrade , I did messege brain , no answer yet , Maybe he is busy , I will post this to ED see what he says , now LOU

 

[Redick]

I thought those edguns were strong enough for you to run over them with your car?

 

[lbc_PSI]

IDK. Was the gun left suspended..IE the butt-stock not resting on anything..just hanging? You are putting a lot of pressure on the stock joint..not sure how large the connecting pieces in the stock are, but I would doubt they were designed to support a 12lb-15lb hanging weight. Even if it wasn't "hanging" at the time of failure, carrying or manipulating the gun with the weight of the tripod would put a lot of torque stress on the joint, too. Not criticizing..just an observation.

Nice groups BTW.

 

[mtnGhost]

None of my Edguns have synthetic stocks so I can't comment on their strength but why would anyone want a synthetic stock for an Edgun? Not bashing just curious is all. YO!

Because the original stocks are thinner wood. The synthetic is ideal for outdoor hunting, where the rifle will get wet and/or get dinged up.

 

[KralGuy]

Damn Lou! You have always got some awesome glass on your guns!!

 

[jwrabbit123]

well gun only weighs 7 pounds and scope I had was only 24 ounces so under 9 pounds total ,it was just balancing with barrel to sky when I got back from target , the forum of stock was in tripod and the gun and back part of stock and scope were on ground ,

MTN Ghost , I was soo happy EDgun came out with Synthetic stock for same reason as I am a hunter , maybe this is a fluke , we see what Ed and Brain say , I really prefer the Synthetic stock my self , So I am hoping he says it is defective , You see , I never used a Tripod in my life , Until , I started having issues with my hands , I had a few surgeries and they still not good , so for me to shoot I need to use my tripod now , so it is either use tripod or dont shoot so I use tripod ,

Kral yes I love Teir 1 optics , This scope is my first attempt to try a SFP scope , I got to do a write up on it soon , but I got to say the glass on this Swarovski is better then my Smidth Bender and they are my favorite glass ,

LOU

 

[jwrabbit123]

HI I wanted to say , Brain messaged me from edgun west and said he will warranty it , but if it breaks again in tripod no warranty , He nor I know if it was not cured properly , as it is molded or if possibly the point is weak link of stock . LOU

thanks Brian

 

[theotherpursuit]

I think that was awfully nice of Brian to warranty the stock. I am sure that the post on the forum may have helped influenced his decision to do so. I think he’s right/fair to only offer it once.

The only stock material I would trust to not fail on your method of set up is a cnc or forged aluminum chassis, and possibly a carbon stock. Come to think of it, you would benefit by removing a mm or two and laying up carbon fiber, or fiberglass in the tube channel.

Regardless if it’s an Edgun or Evanix, the tripod support is stressing a small and vulnerable area to cantilevered stressors. The material in that area of the forearm is very thin. Even if the stock had a void created in the manufacturing process, I would think it could happen over and over again.

Nice R5M btw,

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[theotherpursuit]

Removed as it didn’t contribute to the OP’s post. I deemed it to be off topic after reading it a second time.

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[EDgunWest]

No, this forum does not influence my decision. Lou is an excellent customer, and I did not warn him not to cantilever the stock, I do not like the implication that I only take care of customers because they post something.

 

[kayaker]

Lou that would make me sick if it happened to me , plus a high $$$ scope for a shock test . Let us know if anything happened to the ret. I'm sure Brian will have you going by the weekend . Would like to know how fast are you throwing those slugs please . Best of luck

 

[marflow]

my opinion is move the mount to rear as far as you can,or the stock will break again 

or reinforce it internally but the weak area would have to be bridged 

and Brian i thinks knows it wasn't the stocks fault