my.177 tm500 with jsb13.4 at 50 yards... its putting groups under 4 mm ctc at 50 yards out doors........ i tryied jsb 16.2 but accuracy is not great with them..... but the 13.4 sure is something else
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RAW Rapid RAW airguns = low quality?
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AA - that's good to know. Would you mind posting those groups if you have them? I knew the 13.4g were very accurate in the TM1000 RAW .177 guns at 30-40 Yards, but good to know they can hang in there at 50Y outdoors. Assume that was with very little/no wind.
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Martin & Sandra are wonderful to deal with. Martin just finished a 24" LW .25 SS unchoked barrel @ .71 Dia. & a 28"Lilja .177 unchoked @ .75 dia. I have received both. I'm just tickled to get them & will post some pics & data once installed. My trigger is as you say on a BM500X action. I wouldn't hesitate to get a new AF RAW.
Joe
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To add....I have a RAW LRT .30 pre-AF (if it matters) with off set mod and the velocity never exceeds low single digits variations while on the reg and very tight SD's. I seen 0 with NSA 47gr slugs thru a full mag. I was like wow. Very smooth to cock and shoot. Its a very solid and well made piece of air artillery. Trigger is great too.
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Yeah, after owning (3) RAW HM1000x LRT's .... I have no desire to buy another PCP.
The Whistles and Bells offered by FX and Daystate are nice, but the RAW represents timeless - simplified/precision.
The Whistles and Bells offered by FX and Daystate are nice, but the RAW represents timeless - simplified/precision.
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Martin and Sandra are awesome to deal with. When I purchased my RAW's there was a 6 month lead time. I have owned 4 RAW's and every rifle was perfect.The Rapid is just so accurate and the craftsmanship is second to none. I learned the hard way that you must use your RAW's and not leave them in a safe to rot. I have since found great homes for each them. I am constantly trying new guns and unfortunately I don't have a safe the size of a room for storage.
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When a platform starts off as incredible and then gets small improvements over many years....you get what is pictured!
I totally agree with you Spiral! I also luv your mods 
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Hey Randy,When a platform starts off as incredible and then gets small improvements over many years....you get what is pictured!
Let's give praise where praise is due:
Bob Sterne, Motorhead and Jason are responsible for almost all the mods I've ever done on PCP's, Springers or HPA
. - Long live the internet -> for connecting me with these folks
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Kirk, I totally agree with you about Bob, Motorhead and Jason, incredibly talented people!Hey Randy,
Let's give praise where praise is due:
Bob Sterne, Motorhead and Jason are responsible for almost all the mods I've ever done on PCP's, Springers or HPA
- Long live the internet -> for connecting me with these folks
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Kirk, Bhaur is another wonderful RAW tuner/mod person that fabricates awesome RAW and FX upgrade parts.
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Yes, I forgot Mubhaur and Bucketboy ..............
For me, they're the most recent creative force - Excellent Airgun Tinkerers, tuners and interesting folks
.Bucketboy has been tuning PCP's for years and has Peerless skills.
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I forgot BBoy too! And I have been responding to some of his posts recently....Yes, I forgot Mubhaur and Bucketboy ..............
For me, they're the most recent creative force - Excellent Airgun Tinkerers, tuners and interesting folks
Bucketboy has been tuning PCP's for years and has Peerless skills.
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Too kind, I consider myself more as a bodge artist rather than skilledYes, I forgot Mubhaur and Bucketboy ..............
For me, they're the most recent creative force - Excellent Airgun Tinkerers, tuners and interesting folks
Bucketboy has been tuning PCP's for years and has Peerless skills.
I seldom have a plan, my work ethic is more “ what if”
Bb
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I don't take all this as profession rather I take it as hobby. Hence in all my products the profit margins are very thin. But the satisfaction level is the main thing that I enjoy.Too kind, I consider myself more as a bodge artist rather than skilled
Bb
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What were the barrels before? And what are they now? I'm thinking of getting a .30 caliber RAW.
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They were TJ barrels before, but have been Lothar Walther barrels since 2018 when AirForce purchased RAW. My .30cal RAW is a recent build and I have terrific accuracy with .30cal pellets.
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I agree with your comments about the FX Royale. I just received a brand new Royale 400. Very simple, robust, and accurate right out of the box.
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Having had a Royal 400 I struggled with changes in my impact point for field target. Anytime the barrel was bumped it would move. Have not had that issue with my RAW airguns.
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I wish that all air rifles were threaded vs. having two or three grub set screws to fasten the barrel to the action. I’m not sure that guarantees less POI shift, but it has to help in my mind.
That said, I have been ‘lucky’ I guess, in that my .22 cal Royale ST has had a pretty reliable POA-POI level of accuracy. And, I have bumped the barrel many times, but slightly vs. a serious bump.
That said, I have been ‘lucky’ I guess, in that my .22 cal Royale ST has had a pretty reliable POA-POI level of accuracy. And, I have bumped the barrel many times, but slightly vs. a serious bump.
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