RAW REPORT

[Imold]

Ok guys it’s a done deal,we were burning boxes and and I just said we should burn that big box that the shooting table/bench is in and Mrs Clause said might as well so with a couple pieces of scrap wood I made a T that the spikes on the legs could sit on so I can set it up inside, this is a rock solid table and it’s going to be real nice out doors,the only thing that keeps the legs from moving out are by having the spikes in the ground so that is why I had to make that wood T......poor pic but here it is.

 

[Imold]

It doesn’t wobble or flex, it’s better then I thought it would be..Now I need to set aside some shooting time,Oh wait I have all the time that my ticker will give me so guess I’m good to go except that I can’t get SMH77's HMx with the 2 Barrels out of my mind....hahaha.

 

[Imold]

"Hotbrass"Imold, I missed the part about shooting over the deck. Don`t want to shoot the decking. Love your pic, snow everywhere. Hope you have a Very Merry White Christmas.

No problem Hotbrass and you have a Merry Christmas to...

 

[SMH77]

"Imold"It doesn’t wobble or flex, it’s better then I thought it would be..Now I need to set aside some shooting time,Oh wait I have all the time that my ticker will give me so guess I’m good to go except that I can’t get SMH77's HMx with the 2 Barrels out of my mind....hahaha.

LOL, congrats on the nice bench! I’m planning on posting a review of what it takes to switch calibers to help others thinking about doing the same.

I think my buddy is also about to pull the trigger on a .30 cal HM1000x, today too! The RAW following is growing!

 

[Hynzie]

so i was talking to raw last week about adding a barrel to my 25 cal hm1000x lrt i ordered 2 weeks ago,,, i like the way sean did the added barrell ,so we got to talking and already having a 30 cal hmx,,, im back and forth ,, all hmx 1000 are interchangable except the 357 ,,that one has been built with a beefeier all around action and other coponents,,so it looks to me i will treat the new 25 cal as a all caliber rifle.... to swap to 177 20 22 25 0r30 ica;iber is do able with additional barrel probe and mag,,,,maybe some sptings,,, also ill need a reg tester and a notebook...so this order will be a 25 hm 1000x lrt stock with a additional 22 barrel pat

 

[Imold]

"Mick-VA"

"Imold"No more shooting for me until Santa gets here, I realy want to shoot off the new MTM Hi-Lo table/Bench because I think it will be more solid platform where as my field pod is just to shaky the way I have it set up, maybe Mrs Clause will let me set up the MTM early maybe..

Easy solution Imold. Give Mrs. Clause a gift certificate for a full day of pampering at the spa in the next town over! Plenty o time to try out the MTM.

Good plan and thanks for looking out for me but she isn’t one of those type gals she is more of a camping,shooting,fishing,football,baseball type gal, her idea of being pampered is drinking coffee and watching a football or baseball game without being bothered, comes from 4 years of military service and running a Bar for the last 36 years.

 

[Imold]

"Hynzie"so i was talking to raw last week about adding a barrel to my 25 cal hm1000x lrt i ordered 2 weeks ago,,, i like the way sean did the added barrell ,so we got to talking and already having a 30 cal hmx,,, im back and forth ,, all hmx 1000 are interchangable except the 357 ,,that one has been built with a beefeier all around action and other coponents,,so it looks to me i will treat the new 25 cal as a all caliber rifle.... to swap to 177 20 22 25 0r30 ica;iber is do able with additional barrel probe and mag,,,,maybe some sptings,,, also ill need a reg tester and a notebook...so this order will be a 25 hm 1000x lrt stock with a additional 22 barrel pat

Sounds like a plan Pat. Mine will be ordered nowas a HMx 30 with the .25 poly barrel option after seeing SMH77's that way I’ll have another caliber covered but with only one HMx....Being I have the Wildcat Patriot in .25 already there is no reason I shouldn’t order the HMx LRT in a 30 cal with the .25 as a add on. I’ll then have the .25, .30, .357 and 45 caliber’s covered.

 

[Imold]

"SMH77"

"Imold"It doesn’t wobble or flex, it’s better then I thought it would be..Now I need to set aside some shooting time,Oh wait I have all the time that my ticker will give me so guess I’m good to go except that I can’t get SMH77's HMx with the 2 Barrels out of my mind....hahaha.

LOL, congrats on the nice bench! I’m planning on posting a review of what it takes to switch calibers to help others thinking about doing the same.
I think my buddy is also about to pull the trigger on a .30 cal HM1000x, today too! The RAW following is growing!

Thanks....
I also need to order mine sooner then later so it doesn’t take till next December to get.

 

[Hotbrass]

"crgabel"Just got back from shooting again. Still drilling pellets into nice tight groups.
I mounted new rings 2 days ago and had it rough sited but wanted to do it in a more controlled atmosphere.
Chrony readings fell off 10 FPS at 42 shots which is fine for me. Shooting the 33.95 gr MII pellets.
I'm really enjoying the gun.
Craig

Craig, 42 shots is more than advertised, good news. Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to the RAW Bunch.

 

[SMH77]

Hey guys,

I just posted a PSA regarding what I just measured through my .30 cal RAW for a BC with the JSB light pellets. I posted it in the appropriate place, but I wanted to have some follow up discussion here. Here's the post (the bottom line is I measured the BC to be 0.0427 through my gun, in the cold (21 F) temps. I'm still thawing out, LOL:

http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/raw-30-cal-jsb-light-44-75-grain-ballistic-coefficient-measured/

My question for you guys here is this: I had my gun all setup to shoot the same pellet at 896 fps yesterday (about 36 F outside), and left it that way. I brought it in and left it inside in its case overnight (of course!), then took the gun outside today (21 F). I tried to let the gun sit outside for 15 minutes or so, along with the pellets, prior to starting the testing. When I shot my first string over the chrony at the muzzle, the velocities were averaging 861 fps. I'm not sure what to make of that, except, perhaps, that the cold tightened things up a bit (or perhaps gelled the internal grease a bit?) causing a slight loss of velocity. I plan to leave the setting alone, and see where it shoots when the temp comes back up.

I thought Martin set the guns up to be shooting the 44.75 grain pellets to about 880 fps, yet mine arrived at like 857 so I gave the hammer spring a half turn. I saw the temps near Minor Hill, TN were in the low 50's last week when he was working on my gun, and it was about in the low 30's when I got it (reading 857 fps).

I plan to do the same measurement on the JSB Heavies soon (when it's a bit warmer outside!), so I'll post those results as well.

Any thoughts? 


Sean

 

[SMH77]

"SMH77"Hey guys,
I just posted a PSA regarding what I just measured through my .30 cal RAW for a BC with the JSB light pellets. I posted it in the appropriate place, but I wanted to have some follow up discussion here. Here's the post (the bottom line is I measured the BC to be 0.0427 through my gun, in the cold (21 F) temps. I'm still thawing out, LOL:
http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/raw-30-cal-jsb-light-44-75-grain-ballistic-coefficient-measured/
My question for you guys here is this: I had my gun all setup to shoot the same pellet at 896 fps yesterday (about 36 F outside), and left it that way. I brought it in and left it inside in its case overnight (of course!), then took the gun outside today (21 F). I tried to let the gun sit outside for 15 minutes or so, along with the pellets, prior to starting the testing. When I shot my first string over the chrony at the muzzle, the velocities were averaging 861 fps. I'm not sure what to make of that, except, perhaps, that the cold tightened things up a bit (or perhaps gelled the internal grease a bit?) causing a slight loss of velocity. I plan to leave the setting alone, and see where it shoots when the temp comes back up.
I thought Martin set the guns up to be shooting the 44.75 grain pellets to about 880 fps, yet mine arrived at like 857 so I gave the hammer spring a half turn. I saw the temps near Minor Hill, TN were in the low 50's last week when he was working on my gun, and it was about in the low 30's when I got it (reading 857 fps).
I plan to do the same measurement on the JSB Heavies soon (when it's a bit warmer outside!), so I'll post those results as well.
Any thoughts? 
Sean

I may have found the answer to my own question: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/airgun-world/20160101/283180082414791 

I know about the Ideal gas law, but didn't think through the implications of the effect on muzzle velocity vs. temperature. I still have to read the article, but I'm wondering if it boils down to the force balance on the regulator as the temp changes, allowing for a 'smaller' charge (or lower pressure) of air available for the shot? In other words, the spring, being a mechanical device, isn't appreciably affected by the temperature, but the air that it's balancing (setting the pressure) is affected by the pressure, so the force balance gets affected somewhat? I'll have to read the article, and then sit down and run through the calcs, perhaps, to see if the change in pressure is about what would be expected based on the change in temps.

Interesting food for thought.

Sean

 

[Hynzie]

ideal gas law ....no it cant be ,,,,lol deflate gate but you atr right on temps control,,,warmer it is the faster they will shoot the better they can carry ..,AEAC even mentions while ringing out the Arraman carbine 357 steve mention how fast and hard the projectiles are hitting then says we would pick up 10 to 15 more fps when it got warm out pat ..we can take any part of the sport we love and disect the heck out of it,,,MERRY CH
RISTMAS TO ALL AND ALL A GOOD NIGHT

 

[Imold]

Merry Christmas to you also Pat.
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Well I took my high scope rings off and put on some medium rings and also put a basic bipod on the HMx today so it’s ready to shoot tomorrow,heck I even put the sunshade on just for the looks,think this is the 1st time I’ve ever put a shade on one of my scopes but anyway can’t wait to shoot some more tomorrow.....

 

[Hotbrass]

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[crgabel]

Hotbrass, Is your RAW due in Tuesday? or did you get it Saturday?

 

[Hotbrass]

Craig it is due Tuesday. It is also in town, arrived Saturday. UPS is closed on the weekend. I requested to pick the gun up at UPS since I will not be home when the truck comes by that evening. I should have her in my hands by 10:30 Tuesday morning.

Pics to follow.

 

[Hynzie]

imold what do you think i never read about this many people ordering a RAPID AIR WEAPON seems to be exploding

 

[Imold]

"Hynzie"imold what do you think i never read about this many people ordering a RAPID AIR WEAPON seems to be exploding

I’ve noticed that, There appears to be a RAW epidemic going on and it seems like for every one that gets delivered 2-3 are being ordered..I’m thinking that if I order another one the 1st or 2nd week of January it will be done around July but that’s ok being I have my .357 HMx now and I also have a couple nice shooting .25 caliber’s already so the wait wouldn’t be so hard this time around.

 

[Imold]

Our temperature tomorrow is supposed to be -35* with a windchill of -50* and it’s supposed to be around for a couple days so I might need to keep the door closed but that’s ok I just need to keep the vehicles plugged in so they start in the morning, need to get my gun cleaning kit out of the vehicle so nothing freezes....
Its going to get cold up here in west central Mn.......

 

[Imold]

Think I’m going the same route SMH77 went, order the HMx .30 and then get the Poly .25 Barrel to swap out when I want then that way Martin can get them both set up at the same time plus it will save me a bunch of money.