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Swapped from .30 caliber to .25 caliber just now. Complete process-including dismounting scope, swapping barrels, swapping probes, confirming barrel alignment, and remounting scope: 7 min, 40 seconds. Really really easy.

anyone interested in a copy of the ‘caliber swapping guide’ that I wrote-now that both Ken and Martin have blessed it?


Sean
 
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"SMH77"Swapped from .30 caliber to .25 caliber just now. Complete process-including dismounting scope, swapping barrels, swapping probes, confirming barrel alignment, and remounting scope: 7 min, 40 seconds. Really really easy.
anyone interested in a copy of the ‘caliber swapping guide’ that I wrote-now that both Ken and Martin have blessed it?
Sean
As little Johnny raises his hand from the back of the. Classroom......Sure...





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"terrymc"
"Rey"Terry,
25m. What kind of gun you shoot at 25meters? Is it your raw?
These guns are so accurate that at 25 meters it's going to be literally 1 whole the size of a pellet. I have never seen an actual pellet gun competition and this year I will get to be at the ebr!!!!
Now I have to go to a range to stretch the legs on this raw. I am not looking forward to that. We don't have a gun range where I live so that's the big draw towards an air gun.
Once a month on a competition. Sounds like fun. I wonder if the wife will let me attend.
hi Rey,
Yes I shoot the Raw. I shot it the first time at a match a couple of weeks ago.
So 25 meter competition you have to shoot a Target 2 mm in diameter for a 10 Ring shot from a distance of 82 ft away or 25m.
2 mm is just over one sixteenth of an inch. for each round you have to shoot 25 targets inside of 20 minutes. You have three rounds that you have to shoot for a total of 75 targets worth 10 points each so a total possible score of 750.
These matches are shot Outdoors our range normally has winds running anywhere up 15 to 20 mile-an-hour shifting from left to right throwing your shots sometimes well over an inch. The good shooters use 4-6 wind flags as the wind is different across the whole course.
The the challenge of this shooting is mostly the wind judging it, judging any shift in direction or speed which is always changing, timing your shots with the Wind judging your hold over or under and doing it within a time constraint.
Even a 9 ring shot is only .31 in in diameter so both of those are easy to miss with the Wind.
My last match which was only my second match I scored a 697 which is an okay score nothing 2 brag about. To do that I hit the 10 Ring right at 50% of the time and still had a score that low.
A friend of mine that I was talking to last night showed me his card from Tucson last week where he scored a 743 out of a possible 750 which meant he only missed the 10 Ring 7 times out of 75.
Each of those seven times would still have to be a 9 ring shot to get that score.
To put that in further perspective that is 99% of a perfect score that is great shooting.
25 meter competition is an extremely challenging and fun sport hopefully you get to try it sometime I'm having a blast with it.
If you want to try it at home go to the website that I linked earlier and they have Targets on there that you can print out yourself and layout of course at your house and give it a try it's a lot of fun.
Here is a link to the target page.
http://www.phoenixairgun.net/targets
Hopefully this information sucks a bunch of other shooters into this challenging sport.
25m is very humbling, shooters think “ its only 25m” how hard can it be??? I shot a 746-34x at EBR in the Az wind, i only have a few 750’s under my belt, i only shoot outdoors so the 750’s are slow to achieve.
 
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Well I finally got the HMx 30 sighted in at 75 yards and put the last 3 shots inside one inch using my bipod and rear bag, I'm going to fine tune it using my Lead Slead later so it's more solid, the trigger is lighter then my HMx 357 but I believe that's because the previous owner had it set up for bench shooting so I'll have to take my trigger gauge and check it out, the other day I just pulled the trigger without really thinking about it but now that I'm holding it on a target it is really light. Overall I really like the 30 cal and can only imagine what a 25,22 or 177 would be like, I'm really starting to see why folks like the smaller calibers especially with a quality built airgun....Its hard to say that I wouldn't mind a RAW in .25 caliber but I think I could see one in the future but it would have to be one that Martin built. Guess I'll keep my eyes open and feelers out because you never know I could end up with bases loaded and then down the road get,a 177 and it would be a grand slam for me hahaha.
 
"jps2486"My .177s are my favorite guns and most accurate. I would never part with them. I have a TM1000 and an HM1000.
i really like the 25 caliber airgun and had 5 of them not so long ago and now I’m down to two but I could see getting a HMx 25 and maybe down the road add a 177 RAW of some sorts, this is the 1st 30 cal I’ve had and I like it so far, heck it’s only money after all.
 
"Imold"
"jps2486"My .177s are my favorite guns and most accurate. I would never part with them. I have a TM1000 and an HM1000.
i really like the 25 caliber airgun and had 5 of them not so long ago and now I’m down to two but I could see getting a HMx 25 and maybe down the road add a 177 RAW of some sorts, this is the 1st 30 cal I’ve had and I like it so far, heck it’s only money after all.

Since you say you still have 2 .25"
Given that maybe you should consider a 22.
I have just started experimenting with my poly barrel 22.
And found it likes the 25. gr. jsb's. So you could buy an HM1000x like I have 
ramp it up with 25gr.s for more power and a higher b.c. than a .25 25gr. or dial it down 
and shoot the 13 gr. for light fast pellets.
And if the 25gr. are not enough then you could always buy the 34 gr. BEAST.

Short of transfer port and tuning the HM1000x in 22 should have the same energy potential as in .25".
 
"terrymc"
"Imold"
"jps2486"My .177s are my favorite guns and most accurate. I would never part with them. I have a TM1000 and an HM1000.
i really like the 25 caliber airgun and had 5 of them not so long ago and now I’m down to two but I could see getting a HMx 25 and maybe down the road add a 177 RAW of some sorts, this is the 1st 30 cal I’ve had and I like it so far, heck it’s only money after all.

Since you say you still have 2 .25"
Given that maybe you should consider a 22.
I have just started experimenting with my poly barrel 22.
And found it likes the 25. gr. jsb's. So you could buy an HM1000x like I have 
ramp it up with 25gr.s for more power and a higher b.c. than a .25 25gr. or dial it down 
and shoot the 13 gr. for light fast pellets.
And if the 25gr. are not enough then you could always buy the 34 gr. BEAST.
Short of transfer port and tuning the HM1000x in 22 should have the same energy potential as in .25".
I’ll put this info into my...Ill have to think it over file...My Wildcat and BT65SB Elite QE in .25 are both nice airguns and now I’m getting more ideas to think over..Yikes..
 
"Imold"
"SMH77"Swapped from .30 caliber to .25 caliber just now. Complete process-including dismounting scope, swapping barrels, swapping probes, confirming barrel alignment, and remounting scope: 7 min, 40 seconds. Really really easy.
anyone interested in a copy of the ‘caliber swapping guide’ that I wrote-now that both Ken and Martin have blessed it?
Sean
As little Johnny raises his hand from the back of the. Classroom......Sure...
mod for hand not had....hate spellcheck sometimes.
I just sent you a copy of the updated version via email. Take a look and see if it came through ok. I'm trying to get the file size down from 27+ mb without killing photo quality too much.

Anyone else wants a copy: send me a PM with your email address and I'll email it to you.


Sean
 
"Imold"
"jps2486"My .177s are my favorite guns and most accurate. I would never part with them. I have a TM1000 and an HM1000.
i really like the 25 caliber airgun and had 5 of them not so long ago and now I’m down to two but I could see getting a HMx 25 and maybe down the road add a 177 RAW of some sorts, this is the 1st 30 cal I’ve had and I like it so far, heck it’s only money after all.
That's what 401Ks are for.
 
Thanks for the feedback-and you have a very keen eye indeed! Yes, that is the way the probes came from Martin-not sure why my .30 cal has an o-ring while my .25 doesn't-but that is the way they are from RAW.

Glad you like the guide-swapping calibers is really very easy now (as long as you don't get into playing with any regulator settings).

I'm thinking my next RAW will be a .22 cal polygon barrel-then the regulator settings should be dialed in to shoot the heavy .22's or I can swap on my .25 cal LW barrel and have a dual cal .22 poly / .25 cal setup and a .25 cal poly / .30 cal setup. Lord help me if LW comes out with a poly in .30 cal-then I'll need to order a .357/.30 cal poly setup too (based on the HMx action).


Sean
 
"jps2486"
"Imold"
"jps2486"My .177s are my favorite guns and most accurate. I would never part with them. I have a TM1000 and an HM1000.
i really like the 25 caliber airgun and had 5 of them not so long ago and now I’m down to two but I could see getting a HMx 25 and maybe down the road add a 177 RAW of some sorts, this is the 1st 30 cal I’ve had and I like it so far, heck it’s only money after all.
That's what 401Ks are for.
Hahaha at one time....My ex got half of that in February, 22 years ago...
 
"SMH77"Thanks for the feedback-and you have a very keen eye indeed! Yes, that is the way the probes came from Martin-not sure why my .30 cal has an o-ring while my .25 doesn't-but that is the way they are from RAW.
Glad you like the guide-swapping calibers is really very easy now (as long as you don't get into playing with any regulator settings).
I'm thinking my next RAW will be a .22 cal polygon barrel-then the regulator settings should be dialed in to shoot the heavy .22's or I can swap on my .25 cal LW barrel and have a dual cal .22 poly / .25 cal setup and a .25 cal poly / .30 cal setup. Lord help me if LW comes out with a poly in .30 cal-then I'll need to order a .357/.30 cal poly setup too (based on the HMx action).
Sean
A lot more to these rifles then meets the eye but once you start figuring it out there are a lot of possibilities.