RAW REPORT

"crgabel"Jim,
Looks like a nice range set up. Just planted corn in my field/range. I'll cut shooting lanes for yardages out to 100 yds.
Craig
Hey Craig getting there for sure, I opened up some more land so I could figure out where the house,septic,well,garage is going to go and it turned out perfect, it will not effect my 100 yard range at all.
 
Well I also got the HMx .357 sighted in to 75 yards this afternoon also and the Aztec Emerald I have on it has real stiff turrets not like my other one where the turrets turn nice with good clicks, I might send this one back for a exchange if it doesn’t loosen up a bit. 
Anyway as you know I like my pics so here are a couple from today and yes I did scratch my stock on the side back by the butt and yes I just about shed a tear but I held it back.
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Question on tethering,
I thought that a few months ago I had read somewhere that after filling the bottle on the gun that the first shot is sometimes off the regulator. Can this be true? Maybe I just misunderstood what I was reading. I would guess that if you were topping the bottle off this would not happen but when filling from an empty condition it might???

This brings me to my question. I'm about to get my first tank and have never shot tethered. If in fact it is true what operating pressure do you set the regulator to when shooting tethered? My guess is that as long as you had the regulator from the tank set between 175-200 bar you would be within a good range, correct?

Craig
 
"Uglyjohn"Jim I have the same scope and plan to give it a go at my first foray intoHFT (on my HM1000 ) in a couple of weeks. The turrets do loosen up some with use. Don't sweat the scratch. Just a good reason to refinish her. That blue would look real nice with a good high gloss finish. Uj
I have two Aztec Emerald scopes and they feel totally different when it comes to the turrets but I figure it might be the grease so I’ll give it some time to see if it starts feeling like the other one.
 
I have my RegMan regulator set at about 225 bar or 3250 for both my HMx’s and Wildcat which are all 230 bar rifles and I find it perfect so far, I keep it like this just Incase one of the regulators is off and with that said today when I hooked up my Wildcat my 1st shot was a ringer and same after that, with my 30 it only took 2 shots to get it in the bullseye and with the 357 it took more then it should of but I think the Emerald might have a issue but I’m going to see it those turrets work themselves a bit looser and now with that said I have also read that the 1st shot after fill can be off due to the regulator but so far I’ve been lucky I guess.
When I tether one of my rifles I slowly turn the main air supply on then with my RegMag closed I open my intake side to 4500 psi then let it sit for a minute or so then I opened my outlet slowly until I get to my set pressure of 225bar or ruffly 3250 psi and I also kept a eye on my rifles gauge to make sure the outlet gauge matched the rifle gauge, now when I stop shooting I just turn my main tank off and bleed the line and disconnect this also keeps the rifle full of air and the RegMan set for next time then all I need to do when I hook up is just turn the main tank valve on slowly and make sure the pressure is the same and I’m good to go with the same pressure I was using before.

I do have to say that tethering is new to me and I will be testing other pressures down to 200 bar just to see if it makes any difference but I have a feeling that since 3 of my rifles are shooting just fine at 225 I might leave well enough alone BUT I do have some suspicions with the 357 in that it might shoot a bit better at 220bar so I will be investigating that one a bit more but like I’ve said so far I’m happy being tethered the way I am now.
 
I should add that it is nice when I can just glance up at my RegMan gauge and see where my tank pressure is without having to look at the small gauge on the tank valve, gives me a good look at when my outlet pressure will start falling off. I should keep notes on this so I’ll know at what pressures the different calibers will start being affected and shot count for each caliber.


^^^^^^^ Sounds like a lot of work to do but it would be interesting. i.e how many shots will I get off a 74 cf tank tethered to a HMx .30 set at 225 bar before it starts dropping off, do this for each caliber and make of Rifle a person owns or shoots the most, would make for some good info for sure, something like—— I got 347 shots with my HMx 30 with JSB 44.75 Exact Kings with reg set at 225 bar before it dropped to 220 bar—— something like this would be interesting for sure and do it down to 200 or even 190 bar...it would be a interesting way of comparing several of the exact same rifles to see how different they are performance wise.
 
Guys, 

While I don’t shoot tethered, I have noticed that some of my best groups have come when my tank was very low-like just above my regulator setting. So, as Jim mentioned above, I would be inclined to try setting it at like 155-160 bar and see how it shoot there. Just wantd to pass that along to you guys...

I think I’m going to head down to the airgun club’s range tomorrow as they are opening the outdoor range finally. I can then shoot out to 100 yards in flat terrain.


Sean
 
Well, I went to the club today to shoot at 100 yards. Immediately things were different for me, since the range was slightly downhill there, and it required me to raise up my rear bag (a LOT) to get down to target. My position was pretty bad as a result-struggling to get correct eye alignment most of the day. I need to add some holes to my shooting bench to adjust it to shoot downward next time.

Then came thw wind-it was blowing pellets (.30 cal!) all over the place at 100 yards. Most groups were in the 1.2 - 2” region-not at all what I’ve come to expect. My son kept callimg, range lawn mower was creating a ruckus, people talking, and my bench was only supported on 3 legs (and was rocking the whole time shooting-making a steady sight pocture impossible!!!)-a far cry from my home range conditions.

I did have a few times where I had a lull in the wind, and got one excellent 3 shot group in, and one pretty good 5 shot group in (see below), and then the next groups opened way up again-pretty frustrating, but fun to visit with old friends nonetheless.

Best 3 shot group (@ 100 yards), .30 cal, JSB Lites:

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Best 5 shot group (@ 100 yards), .30 cal, JSB Lites:

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I then decided to shoot the cow bell (@90 yards) lying prone with my fake Atlas bipod. So I threw my adapter on, laid down dialed in the correct adjustments (3.0 mil), and squeezed the shot off-hit the x first shot! Then another shot was slightly right if the first. I realized I was damaging the bell so I stopped at the point (can you tell which two shots were from the .30 caliber?!?!)...

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I have some adjustments to make to my bench for next time. Today was a definite learning curve kind of day for me. 100 yards is a long way! Time to start learning and adjusting for the wind conditions...
 
"zx10wall"I hit 7 of 10 1/10 scale rams at 100 yards today. That was the highlight of my benchrest silhouette match today. The .25 RAW polygon and I need to learn one another a bit more. I had quite a few flyers. I need some original 34 grainers instead of the Edgun MK2’s I have.
Prior to the RAW-how do things normally go at 100 yards for you?