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[mubhaur]

Martin claims that hm1000X .25 with polygonal set at 60 ftlb also shoots 25 grain jsb extremely well. 

As per his experienc the 25 grain pellet flies at around 990fps and still gives 1" groups at 100 yards. 

I wish the owners of this gun to test at that high fps.

It automatically gives such high fps when 25 grain is shot instead of 34 grains.

Please do share your experience. 

regards,

Umair Bhaur 

 

[nomojo65]

Don’t have much experience in the .22 (or .30!) so just trying to get input?, wasn’t grouping well that’s why I checked FPS, shot barrel after cleaning ( Dirty but seen worse! ) also know if you push these to fast will lead up the barrel plus can cause pellet instability! These were jsb 18.1, will try some of the new 25 gr. Soon!, thanks guys

 

[Hynzie]

hi NOMOJO how long ago was the conversion done,, Martin recently came out with a HI POWER version of the 22 ca,,itsl shooting in the 950 range ,this was done recently ,,wondering if this is how yours is set up ,,check out RAW latest FACE BOOK pages its right there ,,good luck PAT

 

[Hynzie]

just keep shooting my friend need to lead that barrel in PAT

 

[nomojo65]

It was done very recent I believe maybe 2mo or less, And I believe it’s the same Reg. That Originally came w/ .30cal gun(this is how it was originally ordered june of 2017) Thanks

 

[Imold]

That’s what I would like my .25 to look like if I decide to add one to my collection, very nice.

 

[nomojo65]

Ya, I like my RAWS!, I’ll get it figured out, I’m just not used to seeing that much velocity out of a .22, but if I can get it dialed in without leading issues (POLY BARREL so probably be ok?) I’m happy...

 

[nomojo65]

Hey! I heard Ken won in Utah with the Bumblebee!...

 

[SMH77]

Umair, From my first hand experience, when the .25 cal is setup to shoot the heavies through the polygon barrel (shooting about 905 fps @ 85-90F, and about 62 fpe), they shoot the heavies very well (see my numerous groups posted). However, in the same setup, the 25.4 grain JSB's shoot terribly-like 1.5-2" groups at 50 yards. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure Martin wouldn't say the 'lite' (25.4 grain) pellets will shoot well through the polygon barrel at those kind of speeds-so I'm guessing there was some misunderstanding on your communications with him on that topic.

If you want to see the results, in detail, visit the testing report I posted on this subject (the HM1000x, .25 cal, 60 fpe setup through the LW Polygon barrel)-it shows the muzzle velocities, energy, BC, and group sizes of both the JSB Heavies, JSB Lites, H&N Baracudas, H&N Baracuda Hunter Extremes, and the Polymags. Here's the link to the review with the polygon barrel: https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/25-cal-ammo-shootout-6-pellets-bcs-groups-and-other-stuff-measured/ 

Note: those 12 shot groups are shot at 50 yards for all groups. The temp was 9C (so about 48F)-meaning that 984 fps at 48F is probably topping 1000 fps at 85-90F temps (yes, it varies with temperature-I have the data to prove it...).

And if you want to see how the LW 'traditionally rifled (non-polygon)' barrel compares with no other changes (ambient temp is a bit higher, so that affected the BC's, here the link for that report: https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/25-cal-ammo-shootout-part-ii-ballistics-through-lw-rifled-barrel-bcs-etc/

Again, all groups were at the same distance (50 yards).



Sean

 

[mubhaur]

SMH77
If you can share youe e mail address, I can send you the exact wording of HIS statement. He may be right but all guns might not perform that well.

Lets exchange our e mail addresses.


Further on Pro Chrono, my gun shoots 34 grain at 905 fps and 25 grains at 1010 fps. While HE said that 25 grain fly at around 980 fps.

I hope that if I tune it down to 980 fps, it might perform as well as he has advised.

Regards,

Umair Bhaur

 

[SMH77]

Umair,

I just sent you a PM with my email address. You should probably remove your email address from the post and send it via PM instead (so that spam-bots don't get your email address and start sending you a bunch of spam emails).


Sean

 

[SMH77]

Here's a tip for this group that I'm not sharing with everyone on the forum-just those of you on the RAW report: if you go to www.dvor.com (Optics Planet subsidiary) they currently (for the next 4 days) have the Hawke 6-24x56 mm FFP scope listed (I can't believe it-since it's a NEWLY released scope!) listed for $385! I bought mine from Amazon when it first came out for $539.99. The lowest price I've seen it for anywhere (aside from the DVOR deal) is $499.99 from www.bhphotovidel.com. This is a chance to save a lot of cash on an excellent scope. The scope also comes with the sunshade and 4" sidewheel as standard accessories in the box too.

You have to sign up to become a member of the site, but it's worth it for the savings.

I couldn't resist buying another one for my son's Wildcat (that I still have to buy) since it was such a great deal on a great scope.


Sean

 

[mubhaur]

Removed my e mail address from the post and sent you an e mail

Thanks

 

[Imold]

I get DVOR adds everyday but mostly just skim over and then delete them, must of overlooked that scope.

 

[SMH77]

Yeah, Jim, I did a double take when I saw it-I couldn't believe the listed it! I confirmed the part number on the Hawke website and then ordered one for my son's gun build. I almost think it's a typo, but they should be honoring it. Caveat: they are out of stock at the moment and expect them to actually ship in 1-3 weeks (which is fine with me, I'm in no rush). They also don't appear to be charging cards until the product has shipped (so you've got 1-3 weeks to figure out how to break the news to your wife, LOL).

Sean

 

[nomojo65]

Nice tip!, might have to order one( not a member though... might be soon!

 

[Hynzie]

Well gents weve hit the 50000 views mark and have a great core of guys .not sure if anything can be done .it would be great to be able to categorize. The wealth of knowledge thats come through this thread . Again I don't know if it's possible to do any of this but it'd be great to be able to separate the information into different categories like the information Sean is posted on ballistic calculations and the different scopes different pellets different guns pictures Barrel swapping the whole nine yards if anyone's got any ideas well it was a thought anyway HYNZIE

 

[SPAW]

Hey guys, checking in to say hello. Im on epic airgun roadtrip. Competed in Utah, took 1st place in 25m, shot well at 75 yards, Was in top ten scores for pro class, but only top 2/3 shooters was advance per relay, so I didnt proceed to 100 yards..

Im in Salem New York now for 25m/50 yards USARB Northeast Regional championships



Hope all is well, email is best to reach me.

Ken

 

[nomojo65]

Congrats Ken, I thought I saw a pic of the bumblebee! ( I love that stock color...!) 

 

[nomojo65]

Just finished my So called long range back stop 65yd? All I can safely get Shooting from my covered bench! ( photo not uploading?)