Rear peep sights
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This variant has no windage markings and no elevation indicator window. There must be a lot of different variants.BELOW IS STOLEN FROM A POST I RECENTLY DID ON ANOTHER SITE. YOUR OLD ONE IS THE SAME AS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PHOTO, BUT AS NOTED IS MISSING THE WINDAGE LOCK. PROBABLY MADE 1956-ISH, GIVE OR TAKE.
THESE OLDEST HW UNITS HAVE A DOVETAIL OF ABOUT 12.5MM. THEY DO NOT FIT EITHER THE "13MM" GUNS FROM THE 60'S AND 70'S, OR THE "11MM" ONES MADE SINCE.
These three diopters are from HW 55's. The two on the left are older, and solid milled steel. This "turret" style must have been manufactured in small batches, as there seem to be endless variations in them. The third one on the right is a newer generation introduced about 1959. Points of interest:
1. Huge eye disk with textured anti-glare rear face on this early turret sub-variant.
2. The disk's front flange mates with the turret's flat rear face, to lock the elevation adjustment into place.
3. The only function of the huge thumbwheel underneath is to lock the windage setting (do Germans obsess over wandering settings?)
4. This later turret model has the top thumbwheel, which mates with the positioning holes in the rifle's receiver, recessed to fit flush with the base. The whole rear section is also dropped down a bit.
5. The revised design has changed to a more elaborate cast-metal adjuster module.
6. But the base is still solid steel. As far as I can tell, the small tapered radius down the top edges is purely for aesthetic purposes.
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HW match sights do indeed have a lot of variations! They fall into three basic generations:
The oldest ones (left in the photos below) are all steel. The elevation adjustment is in a narrow rounded "turret," and the windage is built into the base. These were used up until about 1959.
The next ones (middle in photos) used a compact casting to house both adjusters. The base is still nicely detailed forged steel. Those were used for just a few years.
The most common and familiar ones (right in photos) are similar in appearance to the second generation, but are made entirely of castings, and look a bit bigger and more "squared up." They were made from the mid 60's until recent years.
Sights are typically made in small batches by subcontractors. Within each of these generations are many minor sub-variants (especially those oldest ones). I could bore you for hours, LOL...
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Adapter bushing:
This is from Champion's Choice in Nashville, but most other target supply places would have it too.
This is from Champion's Choice in Nashville, but most other target supply places would have it too.
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It is indeed a nice piece of kit. I may buy one. But the OP asked about affordable options and the iris costs more than the sight he’s looking at LOL so I thought I’d show him alternatives.
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Another alternative is the Merit iris units. These are small, light, and made for US sight threads.
But again, with the German iris and a US adapter, you will never need another one no matter what sights you end up with.
As mentioned above, an economical solution that's great for many shooters, is to simply buy a selection of Willliams's own disks, which come in a variety of outside diameters, opening sizes, and styles.
Another "old timer's trick" for shooting in low light, is to use NO disk, and just sight through the mounting hole. You'd be surprised how accurately you can shoot like that!
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Makers of adjustable apertures that allow shooters of all ages to see their sights and target clearly.
www.meritcorporation.com
But again, with the German iris and a US adapter, you will never need another one no matter what sights you end up with.
As mentioned above, an economical solution that's great for many shooters, is to simply buy a selection of Willliams's own disks, which come in a variety of outside diameters, opening sizes, and styles.
Another "old timer's trick" for shooting in low light, is to use NO disk, and just sight through the mounting hole. You'd be surprised how accurately you can shoot like that!
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Went back to 20 yards to see how it was. Wonderful being able to shoot with my glasses on and see both the sight and the target. First 4 shots were high right. Sight hadn't moved but discovered that the windage, elevation, and gib screw were all loose. Assuming I just need to tighten a little more than I did the first time? I don’t want to use Loctite because those screws have to be loosened to adjust the sight.
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You might try some of the Loctite 222MS™, purple, ie low strength which is listed for eyeglasses, small electronics, laptops, ect, and hand tool removeable. I use it on pins in wristwatch bracelets, and have always have had loctited pins easy to remove. It might help remove any slop in threads on the sight if an is present. I would still use sparingly only on a portion of threads.
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this site has sets of inserts and the clear ones
freelandssports.com
Apertures Fixed - Freeland's Sports LLC
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From India and you know there not good target shooters ,right?
..lol
Check there sights from this company
www.preciholesports.com
..lolCheck there sights from this company
Air Rifles Accessories - Preecihole Sports
Precihole Sports offers the premium quality air rifle and pistol accessories are perfect complement to your air rifles and pistols. Browse here the air gun accessories.
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Just checked the price 2199 rupees converted turns up to be about 28 US dollars. Cheap. Just wonder how good it is. I have been finding some nice Anschutz match sights, at about 5-6 times that price, used of course and no complaints.From India and you know there not good target shooters ,right?
Check there sights from this company
Air Rifles Accessories - Preecihole Sports
Precihole Sports offers the premium quality air rifle and pistol accessories are perfect complement to your air rifles and pistols. Browse here the air gun accessories.
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Dont know.. them folks are big in air gun and some of the top Olympic shooters as well.. then does that equate to there add on stuff they have to use ?..lol. Ive looked at that before and figured id add it in here to look at anyway..
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I think I saw their site a long time ago. Know nothing about them and really would prefer to stick with US or European made products.
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So this is the results of shooting my RX2 at 25yrs, shooting jsb 13gr while sitting on a old tin wash tub bucket thing, resting my support arms elbow on my knee.
The numbers on the left represents the amount of fingers, width wise, away from the trigger guard. For example, 4F is like when using your left hand, the fingers are perpendicular to the stock so therefore it's 4 fingers away from the guard.
And at the top of each row, they are the different options, four of them that are offered by the factory rear sights.
The numbers on the left represents the amount of fingers, width wise, away from the trigger guard. For example, 4F is like when using your left hand, the fingers are perpendicular to the stock so therefore it's 4 fingers away from the guard.
And at the top of each row, they are the different options, four of them that are offered by the factory rear sights.
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Looks ok to me.... Maybe work on trigger pull and follow through.. i get plenty of days my shots dont look any better when i shank em i shank em good.. i sware the guns broken..lol
That one flinch ( but ill blame the pellet/flyer
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That one flinch ( but ill blame the pellet/flyer
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Maybe youll get lucky with a member donate or a deal on a pack of them , but ....lol. Its more like bite the billfold bullet and pay the price .. $31+ 12$ shipping. Thats the deal killer unless you got a big order to throw them in with it.
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