Redheaded Stepchildren.
- Thread starter craighobbist02
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I REALLY like both of my Hatsan Flash rifles. Way too much power is my only complaint so both are cranked down to their minimum and shoot fantastic. My Flashpup drove me absolutely nuts so I was FORCED to buy a Huma regulator for it. My At44s are ok too much power so had to JB Weld couple of the fast flow holes on the cylinders since their add on cylinder regulators suck. Their ATP1 and ATP2 pistols are ok much cheaper alternative to the $1000 HW44 not as good but ok enough for the budget minded. Their semiautos need a lot of maintenance to keep them working as most have already witnessed.
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I don't have a 25 caliber Hatsan ATP1 or ATP2 (just the 177s and 22s) yet but this looks very interesting since the HW44s or Ataman AP16 or P-Rods don't come in 25 caliber. They are pistols based on the proven AT44 platform and in pistol form they have perfect power IMHO since the rifle versions are known to have way too much power anyway.
https://youtu.be/l_0wvJ2xoWY
https://youtu.be/l_0wvJ2xoWY
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Every hatsan I have owned or shot was a good gun besides my 135 break barrel. The accuracy was just never there. I've had break barrels a third of the price that would out shoot it all day. The only other thing that is a con for me with the hatsans I've experienced is low shot count and no regs. BT65 .30 I love though.
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I have never owned one, so can't give it respect or disrespect. I think if you own one or a few, you post about them and show your results and folk will look and perhaps say "Wow! I gotta have one of those" Then they can validate your results and BAM! The brand starts gaining some "respect" I don't think people here are personally not showing respect towards the brand. There is a few complex factors that figure into what people are inclined to buy and to give loyalty to. The brands that get a lot of air time here have that notoriety for a reason. Word gets around really quick when there is a product that is on top of it's game, specially if it can be had for a reasonable price and still hang with the big boys or beat them.
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My first gun was a Hatsan! Still have it. Still like the looks of it!
My gun budget is a little on the small side, so I always checked Hatsan's offerings early on.
But the lack of regulators adds a whooping $100 to the sticker price, and then I might as well get something else from the start. No, I will not shoot PCPs without regulators, I don't want to be constantly guessing where on the power curve I happen to be right now, with pressure gauges being as erratic as they are.
I really like how Hatsan offers so many rifles in synthetic, I really like DURABLE and TOUGH!
Also, I am really into bullpups, and Hatsan has many bullpups. Cool!
But the idea of a bullpup is that it is a rifle that is really short. And the Hatsan bullpups just didn't cut it -- they didn't cut their bullpups short enough...! They are more like carbines with the trigger moved forward.... (yeah, that is the legal definition of a bullpup, I know -- but the shortness, the reason for doing this in the first place, it's just not there).
And even though the Flash looks so cool(!), the Flashpup that evolved from it (in either wood or synthetic) just looks [to my eyes!] hideous. Sorry, no offense to Flashpup owners.
I very much appreciate Hatsan to give us realistic muzzle velocities by using real lead pellets, not the alloy cheating game many other manufacturers play.
I hope Hatsan keeps moving ahead.
Matthias
My gun budget is a little on the small side, so I always checked Hatsan's offerings early on.
But the lack of regulators adds a whooping $100 to the sticker price, and then I might as well get something else from the start. No, I will not shoot PCPs without regulators, I don't want to be constantly guessing where on the power curve I happen to be right now, with pressure gauges being as erratic as they are. I really like how Hatsan offers so many rifles in synthetic, I really like DURABLE and TOUGH!Also, I am really into bullpups, and Hatsan has many bullpups. Cool!But the idea of a bullpup is that it is a rifle that is really short. And the Hatsan bullpups just didn't cut it -- they didn't cut their bullpups short enough...! They are more like carbines with the trigger moved forward.... (yeah, that is the legal definition of a bullpup, I know -- but the shortness, the reason for doing this in the first place, it's just not there).
And even though the Flash looks so cool(!), the Flashpup that evolved from it (in either wood or synthetic) just looks [to my eyes!] hideous. Sorry, no offense to Flashpup owners.
I very much appreciate Hatsan to give us realistic muzzle velocities by using real lead pellets, not the alloy cheating game many other manufacturers play.I hope Hatsan keeps moving ahead.
Matthias
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My dad's hatsan 130s is freaking rad. A springer that shoots a huge pill like that is super fun. I can't wait for the coons to come around again for my cats food bowl. Hatsan does overpowered good and if you ask me overkill is under-rated.
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Over the years PCP wise I've had and or currently have: 3 BSA Ultra SE, 2 Edgun Leylas, 2 Edgun Leshiys, 2 Zbroia Kozak, 2 Daystate Huntsman, 1 Kalibrgun Cricket, 1 FX Ranchero, 1 Brocock Contour, 1 Airgun Tech Vulcan and 1 Airforce TalonP. Springer wise: Beeman R9, BSA Lightning, BSA Tactical XL, BSA Supersport, Cometa 400, Hatsan Supercharger, HW30, HW45, HW75, HW50, HW90, HW95, Impact Air RM100, RWS 38, Walther Terrus, Webley Exocet, Webley Longbow, Webley and Theoben Evolution. So generally I've stayed within the "quality airgun" range. About a month ago I decided to give the Hatsan 95 in .25 spring version a try, it was for sale for about $200 new. It turned out to be an absolute gem of an airgun, very accurate and well built, no issues at all. I liked it so much I decided to try out one of their PCPs and I purchased a Hatsan Hydra in .25 for about $400 new. I haven't done much with it and when I filled it up to 200 bar there was a hissing sound coming out of the gauge area. I didn't get upset because I see that happens with airguns costing almost 4 times as much, it turned out to be that the air bleed screw wasn't tightened all the way down, about a 7 second fix. I shot it a few times over the chrony and it's pushing 33.95 grain JSBs at 735 fps and is very quiet too. Quality wise it wears a walnut stock and has a very good trigger, feels like the HW Elite trigger on the HW90, the only thing out the box I don't like is that the bolt isn't as smooth as I would want it to be but at this price point I can't really complain plus with time it will smooth out. So far I can say they are good guns quality airguns. I do wish they kept the Webley stock styling of the Longbow and Raider on their guns.
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The root of the disrespect for me was when Hatsan f@#$%d up Webley springers. There was absoloutley no call for that, period.
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