Daystate Redwolf .22HP - When they are all flyers????
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I'll have to try it on low power or at least double check which power it's on. I tried to make one of the Recoil Trigger. I can't say I had much success using it. I think I'll just buy one and be done.
How did you map out the Labradar?
Smitty
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Odd that you are having issues then. I was shooting JSB, Air Arms, H&N, and Predators and they all shot great.
Wondering if something is clipping or something else.
Wondering if something is clipping or something else.
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Something is wrong by more than a little. It should not have been returned to you shooting this way. I believe you said that AOA did the work, send it back. No tech should release a rifle to the customer that demonstrates such deterioration in performance.
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I second checking the inside barrel o-ring. Even a worn o-ring can leak air and severely affect accuracy. You can do a tissue paper test to see if the breech o-ring is leaking.
Also, check the o-ring on the barrel that contacts the shroud. If it is missing or worn/hardened, that can also cause accuracy issues.
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I had my shroud off yesterday and noticed the front oring was worn and didn't think nothing of it but I didn't notice it just seemed off for some reason thanks for the tip I'll have to try new orings out
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Those o-rings can get stiff or worn out over time. Let us know whether a change of o-ring fixes the problem!
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Ok, back at it.
This morning I took the scope off - It was tight. Took the barrel out and removed the shroud, Barrel was tight. Got out the cleaning fluid, some patches and my new Carbon cleaning rod and some patches. Well the new rod wouldn't enter the breech with a patch, grab old brass one and start the process.
OMG - It was disgusting.
I didn't think it was that bad, so about 2 hours later to get clean patches through I was done. Ended up using a brass brush about 1 hour into it to scrub it a little. Finished up with wet patches with cleaning solution and a bunch of dry patches.
Lubed up all the o-rings for the shroud and barrel and re-installed it. Set the scope back on and moved it about to where it was. Took out the LabRadar, Shooting Table, etc. etc. I set the LabRadar to Low Power instead of Normal, get it aimed as best I could. Instead of starting at Power Level 12, I started at Power Level 1.
Power Level 1 Average - 599
Power Level 2 Average - 665
Power Level 3 Average - 755
Power Level 4 Average - 814
Power Level 5 Average - 845
Power Level 6 Average - 887
Power Level 7 Average - 927
Power Level 8 Average - 949
Power Level 9 Average - 956
Power Level 10 Average - 980
Also found the PRS Rail/BiPod mount was loose.
Well that's much better, Power Level 2 was 4 pellets in the hole, the one just outside was me. Power Level 5 was used to set the scope after moving it. The lower power setting on LabRadar captured all the shots. I also used the Single Shot Tray for all of the shots.
Thanks for all the suggestions, looks like a dirty barrel and a loose mount can make you loose it all.
Smitty
This morning I took the scope off - It was tight. Took the barrel out and removed the shroud, Barrel was tight. Got out the cleaning fluid, some patches and my new Carbon cleaning rod and some patches. Well the new rod wouldn't enter the breech with a patch, grab old brass one and start the process.
OMG - It was disgusting.
I didn't think it was that bad, so about 2 hours later to get clean patches through I was done. Ended up using a brass brush about 1 hour into it to scrub it a little. Finished up with wet patches with cleaning solution and a bunch of dry patches.
Lubed up all the o-rings for the shroud and barrel and re-installed it. Set the scope back on and moved it about to where it was. Took out the LabRadar, Shooting Table, etc. etc. I set the LabRadar to Low Power instead of Normal, get it aimed as best I could. Instead of starting at Power Level 12, I started at Power Level 1.
Power Level 1 Average - 599
Power Level 2 Average - 665
Power Level 3 Average - 755
Power Level 4 Average - 814
Power Level 5 Average - 845
Power Level 6 Average - 887
Power Level 7 Average - 927
Power Level 8 Average - 949
Power Level 9 Average - 956
Power Level 10 Average - 980
Also found the PRS Rail/BiPod mount was loose.
Well that's much better, Power Level 2 was 4 pellets in the hole, the one just outside was me. Power Level 5 was used to set the scope after moving it. The lower power setting on LabRadar captured all the shots. I also used the Single Shot Tray for all of the shots.
Thanks for all the suggestions, looks like a dirty barrel and a loose mount can make you loose it all.
Smitty
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Cool hope it stays figured out for ya I tore my redwolf apart the other day drop in a new 22 hp valve with the transfer port maxed out at I think it was .217 drill bit also took the throat to .217 and about a 1/4 inch deeper . Took the poppet stem down to .090 where it's in the valve . The barrel I funneled out the transfer port in it but didn't go deep enough to change it inside the barrel a whole lot took added a ounce to the hammer as well on level 12 with 700 cc bottle shooting 34 gr pellets at 980 fps they did alright but I was pushing the gun to hard tried level 10 with 25 gr 22 cal redesigns they were at 1025 fps set it to level 8 25 gr are running 945 and recoil isnt as noticable as it was with 34 gr pellets also installed a blue chassis PRS I got off of the classifieds kinda blown away by the numbers it was putting up for a 22 cal
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I just fixed my best shooting PCP today after it shot several poor 30 yard challenge targets. Turned out to be a little bit loose scope mount. My score improved almost 20 points with the screw tightened. I cleaned the barrel first but it didn't seem to do anything. This is my P35-22 which loves H&N Baracuda Match pellets. Speed doesn't seem to make much difference. Shot a 197 today at 795 fps and it's best is a 200 at 835 fps.
Congratulations on fixing your redwolf.
Congratulations on fixing your redwolf.
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Glad it was an easy fix! The new/old Redesigned with shallow skirts are hitting the shelves as we speak....you should definitely get some! They also have the new 20gr & 28gr FYI if you didn't already know
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DIRTY BARRELS CAN CAUSE HAVOC ON CERTAIN PCPS WHILE SOME OF MY OTHERS NEVER AFFECT ACCURACY . I READ THEM DAYSTATES LEAD UP AND YOU NEED TO USE SOLVENT AND A BRUSH ESPECIALLY WHEN GUN IS NEWER UNTIL A FEW 1000 SHOTS SMOOTH THINGS OUT .LOU
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I picked up a couple tins of the 25.4 grain JTS, I'll be tying them soon. I also picked up some of the 20 grain JTS as well. I'll have to get some of the other redesignes.Glad it was an easy fix! The new/old Redesigned with shallow skirts are hitting the shelves as we speak....you should definitely get some! They also have the new 20gr & 28gr FYI if you didn't already know
Smitty
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I'm glad to hear you got it figured out but I just wanted to say my spidey sense was tingling at the prospect of a barrel so difficult and time-consuming to clean. A bore that has been smoothed with J-B is usually very quick and easy.
Approximately how many pellets had been put through it since it was last cleaned (or since the J-B treatment, if those are the same), and what was the cleaning solution? Just looking for clues because that sounds so far outside the norm...I must be missing something.
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Nervoustrig,
The whole rifle may have 4-5 200 count tins through it. Pellets since a polishing maybe 100 pellets. I normally pull that green Weed Wacker thing with the 22cal plug through it with a patch after shooting. It appears that it doesn't do a good enough job removing any build up that a better job must be done. I just started using Frog Lube Extreme, supposed to be non-toxic and doesn't damage O-rings. It may have been starting at PL12 and fouling the barrel and it just got worse as I went down in power. The bore "feels" smooth until you get to the choke and there is a very noticeable reduction in size there. I bent my brass cleaning rod getting it through there. My new Carbon Fiber won't even fit with a patch past the Viton O-ring at the breech.
Looks like I'll be cleaning a little more often and maybe trying a the Frog Lube on the pellets. I seem to recall reading that someone had some success with that in reducing the fouling.
Smitty
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