Rekord Trigger

[thumper]

My question concerns the trigger pull weigh. Is there any advantage in clipping a coil or 2 off the little spring between the adjustment screw and the bottom sear? I’d like to get the pull weight down to a consistent 7oz break with first stage return thru polishing and judicious adjustment of the “forbidden “ screw. I’ve heard that changing the above mentioned spring also helps but I’ve never tried that so looking for advice from those who have. Thanks. Uj

I have an HW55 with the factory improved Rekord trigger. I took the lighter spring out of it (the one under the adjuster) and stuck it in a regular production Rekord.

It definitely wasn't the same, and wouldn't go much lighter without failing to reset the first stage. Maybe that helps answer your question.

The biggest flaw to the Rekord as far as pull weight goes, is the trigger is positioned too far back in the housing for best leverage against the sear bar that the trigger blade works against. Simply moving the trigger blade forward in the housing makes a HUGE difference. I have one that I modified and made to work like this, but never got around to finishing it well enough to go into a gun.

V-Mach used to offer a modified Rekord for a short time, and to my surprise there's was just the same idea. By the time I saw them they were unavailable. Notice how the trigger has been moved forward, you can still see the original pivot point where the trigger pin was.

 

[Mycapt65]

My question concerns the trigger pull weigh. Is there any advantage in clipping a coil or 2 off the little spring between the adjustment screw and the bottom sear? I’d like to get the pull weight down to a consistent 7oz break with first stage return thru polishing and judicious adjustment of the “forbidden “ screw. I’ve heard that changing the above mentioned spring also helps but I’ve never tried that so looking for advice from those who have. Thanks. Uj

Clipping the existing spring won't make it lighter. It will only make it shorter. If you were to mess with it you need a similar size spring with a lower spring rate. Typically a lighter wire spring.

If that spring adjustment is backed out too much you will lose your first stage return. IIRC correctly in some cases the trigger won't reset. Also lightening or removing the first stage will make the rifle more likely to bump fire.

Be very careful with the forbidden screw. That adjusts the sear engagement. The tiniest bit too far the gun will bump fire or fire as soon as the safety is switched off. Very dangerous. Keep in mind that the trigger reacts different in a cocked rifle. The sears may stay engaged in a trigger outside the gun or when not under mainspring tension but may not hold properly with the gun fully together.

Always make sure the gun is pointed in a safe direction when you switch off the safety.

All of my rekord triggers run under pound safely some less than others. Many are around 8 oz. My lightest is 5 oz. Due to manufacturing tolerances each individual trigger gun combination has its own lower limits.

I'm sure there's room for improvements in the trigger but I've found that I can usually get them working well enough for me without disassembly or design modifications.

Good luck and be careful

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

Clipping the existing spring won't make it lighter. It will only make it shorter. If you were to mess with it you need a similar size spring with a lower spring rate. Typically a lighter wire spring.

If that spring adjustment is backed out too much you will lose your first stage return. IIRC correctly in some cases the trigger won't reset. Also lightening or removing the first stage will make the rifle more likely to bump fire.

Be very careful with the forbidden screw. That adjusts the sear engagement. The tiniest bit too far the gun will bump fire or fire as soon as the safety is switched off. Very dangerous. Keep in mind that the trigger reacts different in a cocked rifle. The sears may stay engaged in a trigger outside the gun or when not under mainspring tension but may not hold properly with the gun fully together.

Always make sure the gun is pointed in a safe direction when you switch off the safety.

All of my rekord triggers run under pound safely some less than others. Many are around 8 oz. My lightest is 5 oz. Due to manufacturing tolerances each individual trigger gun combination has its own lower limits.

I'm sure there's room for improvements in the trigger but I've found that I can usually get them working well enough for me without disassembly or design modifications.

Good luck and be careful

Very good commentary Ron. One other thing. When adjusting the “forbidden” screw, always hold the barrel back when loading, then when closing the barrel “quickly but gently” make certain the gun is pointing in a safe direction. The safety can be compromised when the trigger is to far out of its limits. I have had the trigger so light it fired upon closing. Once it just let loose while loading and hadn’t I been holding back the barrel...... I have made this a regular practice from that point on anyway. The trigger can also change over time when getting it this light so I am always cautious of this.

 

[Sqwirl57]

Slap your palm on the butt pad too with some decent force or just mortar the butt pad into the ground a bit. Acts a drop test to verify excessive knocking around doesn't cause the sear to slip.

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

When achieving the perfect “extra light” trigger, it is also important to remember that the dab of “factory grease“ on the the safety button spring will harden over time and can become a problem even on an untouched trigger let alone a lightened one. So always hold the barrel when loading.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

What about adding a trigger shoe ?
The slip on set screw kind.

(For a example)

Bisley Brass Trigger Shoe - Rifle Airgun Quick-Fit Upgrade | UK Freepost

www.ant-supplies.uk

That fish hook hatsan qurato trigger needs somthing bad ...lol. ( I home made somthing to fill that sucker in ..)

I also liked the trigger travel stop screw a guy added and posted in a thread here ... ( Alot)