Rendering a Huben K1 "safe" at the range?

[Begle1]

I'm contemplating getting a Huben K1 but I'd like to take it to my local firing range, where they would expect it to be "rendered safe" when not in use. Usually for conventional firearms this means safety on, unloaded, and chamber open.

What's the closest I could get with a Huben K1? Based on my understanding of how the gun works, the best I can do is empty the magazine and put the safety on; is there some way to obviously render the gun "safer" than that? Without being able to remove the magazine and without a bolt to hold open, what could I do?

 

[swNCsw]

a breech plug inserted into the breech area with a large ribbon or tassel red or some other eye catching color.

 

[swNCsw]

oops my bad i forgot about it not being exposed sorry. lol

 

[Sqwirl57]

A standard chamber flag should work and are dirt cheap

 

[swNCsw]

Good question lol. How about and older hollow type can device with no exit hole that cannot be penetrated by a misfire and painted in a bright orange or red color. a sort of projectile stopping device .

Maybe a trigger locking device that was keyed and approved ?

 

[swNCsw]

A standard chamber flag should work and are dirt cheap

I thought the same until I realized on the huben it is not applicable .

 

[swNCsw]

!4.95 on amazon Maybe?

 

[Sqwirl57]

How about a rimfire flag like this cut down some if necessary?

 

[Begle1]

How would a flag work, guys?

Stick it in the revolver chamber, then move it into the line of fire, and have the flag be so thin that it hangs out of the very small crack between the chamber and the barrel?

And then rotate the revolver chamber backwards to remove the flag?


The trigger lock I can see working... Hokey as heck but might be the sort of compromise the range officer and I come up with. Or just a bucket full of sand I prop the rifle into between fires...

 

[Raider03]

I thought the same until I realized on the huben it is not applicable .

True there is no way to insert the chamber flag from the breach end of the barrel because the pellet cylinder can't be opened/removed. So no way to directly prove the chamber is empty. I would discuss this with the range you want to shot at. They may have an approved method. Fixed cylinder revolver pistols exist and would have the same issue.

 

[Sqwirl57]

Guess I should have looked at a picture of the gun first. Nope, flag ain't gonna work. Oops.

 

[Raider03]

How would a flag work, guys?

Stick it in the revolver chamber, then move it into the line of fire, and have the flag be so thin that it hangs out of the very small crack between the chamber and the barrel?

And then rotate the revolver chamber backwards to remove the flag?


The trigger lock I can see working... Hokey as heck but might be the sort of compromise the range officer and I come up with. Or just a bucket full of sand I prop the rifle into between fires...

Could work! Is there an oring that helps seal the cylinder gap? The flag could damage it.

 

[madeintheuk]

I have a similar issue, but moreso to keep it properly safe at home. Unfortunate with these types of airguns, the only true way to make it safe is to empty the mag, and safety on. When this rifle is loaded, it’s primed and ready to go. For my style of airgunning, where I need a grab and go, it just doesn’t work.

 

[keith1]

put a zip tie in the beach

 

[AlanMcD]

To all that are posting about any idea that involves the breach - there is absolutely no access to it to do anything there, and no way to prove that the mag is empty short of spinning it through all slots and viewing it through the limited loading area (only ~3 of 17/19 mag slots can be seen at a time) . . . .

I have no idea if they would accept it at the range, but the only thing I can come up with is the can like in reply #5. Picture a 2" diameter pipe with a cap on it, and probably even a wad of duct seal in the end, and with a strap or mechanism that secures it to the gun. That way no pellet could ever be shot out even if the gun was fired.

Now here is one better - I have a moderator on mine all the time. How about removing that moderator and replacing it with a device like above. It could be a bright red or orange color to clearly indicate that it is a safety device . . .

 

[mh]

I belong to a range that insists on having the bolt open. I spoke with the director about my Diana 54 and they were ok with the the gun half cocked. Im not fond of leaving the gun like that but that is my only choice.
I think the can idea AlanMcD mentioned might work. I plan on bringing it up.

 

[skohl]

I put my Huben back in its case and close the case when I'm at the range. This was approved at our range.

 

[AlanMcD]

I put my Huben back in its case and close the case when I'm at the range. This was approved at out range.

Nice and simple. I like it! Hopefully other ranges accept it too.

 

[ChRiSiS]

I simply empty the gun, then put the safety on. I would never leave the gun with a round in the chamber and magazine. I actually fire one or two empty chambers then engage the safety.

 

[AlanMcD]

I simply empty the gun, then put the safety on. I would never leave the gun with a round in the chamber and magazine. I actually fire one or two empty chambers then engage the safety.

Do you mean always, or at the range?

When I first got my Huben I was careful to at least make sure I at least stored it on an empty mag slot, if not fully empty. Now that I am more familiar with how it works I keep it loaded and ready to fire all the time, on safe of course - I actually worry about it having "one in the chamber" less than I do any other gun as I am not worried about something like a poppet failure launching a pellet on its own. That said, it is still a semi-auto and deserves full respect for that reason . . . I suppose I would transport it empty though.