FX Saber Tactical Impact rail - why?!

[TheShooter (aka Seeker)]

Hi.

Can anyone describe me what is the purpose of Saber Tactical Impact rail other than a fancy look? I can see one can clamp a barrel using that rail but... it is not the case. Just take a look.



The more torque I apply, the more the insert is pressed against the wall of the rail, not the barrel.

I do not understand that.

What is your experience with that? Have you observed any change in the accuracy?

Thanks.

 

[athlon_oved]

That's why the airmarksman backbone is on most people's guns instead of the one you mentioned. This is only my opnion though.

 

[TheShooter (aka Seeker)]

The downside of AirMarksman is you may need to place your scope higher to have enough room for your cheek.

 

[Troy Bakel]

Hi.

Can anyone describe me what is the purpose of Saber Tactical Impact rail other than a fancy look? I can see one can clamp a barrel using that rail but... it is not the case. Just take a look.

View attachment 498272

The more torque I apply, the more the insert is pressed against the wall of the rail, not the barrel.

I do not understand that.

What is your experience with that? Have you observed any change in the accuracy?

Thanks.

Both my inserts are tight against the shroud. They were installed per Saber Tactical directions with a small drop of lock-tight applied to the heads of the set screws.

I don't change my calibers so my .30 Impact stays a .30 and my .177 Impact remains a .177. As such I do not suffer POI shifts.

Once installed and tuned to a pellet, the liner/barrel/shroud system is never moved. The Saber Tactical rail helps protect the shroud from external side, top, and end torque.

 

[TheShooter (aka Seeker)]

Is your rail threaded? Or maybe the insert is threaded only?

 

[Troy Bakel]

Is your rail threaded? Or maybe the insert is threaded only?

I apologize but I cannot remember.

My insert is one piece (U shaped) and had to be slid onto the shroud before the top rail was fitted. It was a tight compression fit between the top rail and the insert and between the insert and the shroud.

The two set screws are supposed be just finger tight to prevent the insert from moving forward or backwards thus the drop of lock-tight on the heads.

 

[Vetmx]

I use the rail on two of my guns for a different purpose. I don’t use the bushing for shooting but I do have bushings that I made that I use when assembling the gun. Another nice thing about the rail is it acts like a guard for the barrel when you use the gun for hunting and possibly getting banged around.

 

[ThE PuNiShEr]

Both my inserts are tight against the shroud. They were installed per Saber Tactical directions with a small drop of lock-tight applied to the heads of the set screws.

I don't change my calibers so my .30 Impact stays a .30 and my .177 Impact remains a .177. As such I do not suffer POI shifts.

Once installed and tuned to a pellet, the liner/barrel/shroud system is never moved. The Saber Tactical rail helps protect the shroud from external side, top, and end torque.View attachment 498401

In that case, how do you clean the barrel, hardly in place as it is, you clean it from the inside ???

 

[TheShooter (aka Seeker)]

I don’t use the bushing for shooting but I do have bushings that I made that I use when assembling the gun.

To align the rail with the barrel.

 

[Troy Bakel]

In that case, how do you clean the barrel, hardly in place as it is, you clean it from the inside ???

I insert an Otis cleaning cable from the muzzle end with the moderator removed, then use a long pair of thin tipped tweezers to draw a patch into the cable's end loop. Pull the patch through the barrel from breech to muzzle, remove the patch and repeat the process.

 

[Troy Bakel]

In that case, how do you clean the barrel, hardly in place as it is, you clean it from the inside ???

I have also seen others remove the pellet probe and use a cleaning rod from the breech end.

 

[ThE PuNiShEr]

Ако излизам да стрелям веднъж седмично и правя 200-250 изстрела, задължително трябва да се чисти след това. При 4 пъти стрелби в месеца това прави 4 почиствания, които са съпроводени със развиване на винтовете за сондата, колело за корекция ударник !!! Резбите ще се побъркат от развиване и завиване

 

[Troy Bakel]

Ако излизам да стрелям веднъж седмично и правя 200-250 изстрела, задължително трябва да се чисти след това. При 4 пъти стрелби в месеца това прави 4 почиствания, които са съпроводени със развиване на винтовете за сондата, колело за корекция ударник !!! Резбите ще се побъркат от развиване и завиване

This is why I use an Otis cleaning cable inserted from the muzzle.

 

[TheShooter (aka Seeker)]

I clean much more frequently. Every 50 shots.

 

[ThE PuNiShEr]

Чистя много по-често. На всеки 50 изстрела.

Защо така, с какво стреляш ?

 

[Healthservices]

It allows me to use over the barrel bipod. But it became hold sensitive when used in conjunction with the barrel holder and changed POI so I removed the holder and just used the OTB bipod.

Allen

 

[lee9]

Guys slightly off topic but I've been offered one of these 2nd hand - https://www.pyramydair.com/product/saber-tactical-fx-impact-arca-rail-2?a=9729

I can't find any info on if they'll fit on an M4, can I just swap this straight out ? my m4 hasn't arrived yet so I can't tell. thanks!

 

[MongooseV8]

I think the idea was to provide an option to help support the barrel assembly without really clamping down on it. I think its a decent system, especially if you pair that with a homemade tensioned shroud. Being able to slide the little delrin supports might also give you some harmonic tuning too, but overall the system wont improve accuracy. I have one for a Maverick build and wanted it for poi shifts while hunting. Its not done yet but I like the rail.