I have a Hawke Airmax 3-9x40 on my HW50 in .20 with Sportsmatch T04C rings, works very well for me.
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N/A Scope for HW50?
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Tuned hw50s seem to pick up a little power. Prior owner had motorhead tune this one. I'm certain it has 1 or 2 coils cut. Mine does maybe 20, 25fps above what factory says. I've used a 3-9x44 nikon shotgun scope as well as a 3-14x44 primary arms scope on mine. Finally ditched the scope altogether and use raw aluminum front post and Williams peep rear. Gun handles so nice without any glass on it.
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SpiralGroove, my Hw50 seems to shot harsher with the oem spring than the Vortek but both are right at 12 foot pounds. Is the oem and Vortek kit "over sprung"? Thanks, Don
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I have the ARH kit in mine, haven’t run it over the chrony, but it is a very nice shot cycle.
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Well, if it shoots at 12 FPE and is harsh, after a tune, yes it's over-sprung or dieseling.
This would indicate a gun out of balance with itself (platform), hence I would cut a coil or two if it were me ...........
The only way I would leave it ............ is if the gun was supremely accurate (albeit over-sprung).
That's just the way I always tune a gun ............ you can feel the shot cycle being in balance or not
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I took the Vortek spring out, cut 3 coils off oem spring, that was longer than the Vortek, and shot it over the crony. It is shooting 730, 10.53 ft lbs. The cocking is much smoother and recoil dropped a lot. We're having some pretty stiff wind here in Virginia so testing will be another day. I may put a couple washers in and bring it up to 750fps unless it is shooting really good groups. DonWell, if it shoots at 12 FPE and is harsh, after a tune, yes it's over-sprung or dieseling.
This would indicate a gun out of balance with itself (platform), hence I would cut a coil or two if it were me ...........
The only way I would leave it ............ is if the gun was supremely accurate (albeit over-sprung).
That's just the way I always tune a gun ............ you can feel the shot cycle being in balance or not
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Hey Bear,
I would love to get an Arken scope, but don't they have a minimum focus of 25 Yards?
This is perfect for shooting at 25 yards +, but pretty limiting unless your a long range shooter ..... only.
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This is why I posted the specifications. I think a 25 yard parallax is sufficient.
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My gun, out of the box, QYS 8.48 pellets averaged 800 fps which is 12.05 ft. Lbs. on Pyramyd calculator if l put the info in right. Don
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The hw50 shoots well at factory levels of 12 fpe in 177. I've "tuned" several of these guns with PG2-PG4 Vortek kits. One 22 caliber 50 I personally owned made 14 FPE with a now discontinued Vortek PG2 SHO kit. That's clean without dieseling. It was too much and I swapped out the kit with a then PG2 HO kit. It made a very nice 12 FPE. I didn't care for the loopy 600 fps so I sold it to a forum member. I believe it's since dipped to 11 FPE as many Vortek kits do over a long time. Fwiw it's one of two springers that he kept after going to the darkside.
My personal 177 HW50 is my most consistent springer. First shot is always dead on. It's my go to squirrel gun. It started a little over 12 FPE and then it too sank close to 11 FPE.
The 22 I sold had my lowest extreme spread of any springer I've owned. It had an ES of three over ten shots. So I guess I might call it "tuned". Maybe he'll chime in to verify it's current condition.
My personal 177 HW50 is my most consistent springer. First shot is always dead on. It's my go to squirrel gun. It started a little over 12 FPE and then it too sank close to 11 FPE.
The 22 I sold had my lowest extreme spread of any springer I've owned. It had an ES of three over ten shots. So I guess I might call it "tuned". Maybe he'll chime in to verify it's current condition.
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Some guns have very "True" compression chambers vs. than the average and make more power, but the shot cycle shouldn't be harsh.
Again, some folk don't mind sold recoil and shoot well - I prefer a shot cycle on the aggressive side of being "in balance" with the platform.
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Yeah Bear,
I do most of my shooting in my 13 yd crawl space and need to focus closer than 25 yards. At the range or while camping 25 would probably be fine too.
Hence, I only buy scopes that focus down to 10 yards. I maybe in the minority.....
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Hawke 3x12 Airmax. I've killed a couple of UTG scopes on my R9, and the glass and sight picture better on the Hawke scopes. The reticles are pretty fine so I prefer the IR models. If you are patient ans subscribe to DVOR there are very good deals on Hawke scopes from time to time.....like 1/2 price deals.
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Don’t believe everything you read. Kim’s .22 HW50 is 11.5 FPE all day long with FTT. Drops below 10 FPE with 13 gr JSB.
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I had a Hawke Vantage 2-7x32ao on my HW50 but tried a Vantage 3-9x40ao I got from Dvor for $80 and I really like it. It stays. I got another one very reasonably for my other HW50.
The 4-12x40 and the 3-9x40 both weigh only 17 oz.
The 4-12x40 and the 3-9x40 both weigh only 17 oz.
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For springer I just stick with a brand like hawke or athlon for a example that offers a no questions asked lifetime warranty and quick turnaround on the replacement ..lol. 
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Great point, makes good senseFor springer I just stick with a brand like hawke or athlon for a example that offers a no questions asked lifetime warranty and quick turnaround on the replacement ..lol.
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