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Scope Zero for BR

thomasair

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People send me lots of pictures of BR cards and ask me what I think.

First of all....there is very little I can tell by looking at a card with no knowledge of the exact wind conditions and how the shooter held for each one. It would be far better if the shooter aimed at the same place and then said the wind was this or that.

Anyway,...one thing I can tell when I look at a card is whether they had a good vertical zero on the scope. If you have a good vertical zero....you will have an equal distribution of shots above the center line and below.

Even the very best rifles do not shoot a single bullet sized hole for 25 shots. The very best will be at least double... and most more than that at 50y.

So if our imaginary gun shoots a vertical spread of 3 bullets wide for 25 shots....the actual scope zero is in the middle of that group.

I see tons of cards that have no shots either above or below centerline. 15-20 shots all hitting near centerline in vertical and then some low misses. If the shooter simply raised the scope zero a couple clicks they would have missed significantly less or none at all.

BR is won by hitting the 10 the most. Hitting dead center won't raise your numerical score...but you will get more xs. If you want to get a higher score....you should stop thinking about xs.

Lots of things can change you vertical zero a couple clicks from card to card. One example...If you use lube...it will take a while for it to be fully distributed over the length of the barrel. Getting on a card immediately may result in a different vertical zero then you had on the last card. If you want to get the most points every time...you should never trust that your vertical zero is exactly the same. A couple sighters that land dead center doesn't mean much if your vertical group size over 25 shots is 3x that size.

I hope this makes sense.

Mike
 
Mike I don’t what you think of this but Mirage can lead to vertical that shooters don’t take account for. If you shoot in morning over wet grass as the sun is coming up or shooting over sand the same, if wind is not blowing or in slight gusts it can be a factor.
I know that a lot of the cheaper Chinese scopes may not show this? Shooter will chase there zero not taking mirage into account, they may shoot when flags drop and this might actually be not a good time to pull the trigger? I’ve had this happen to me! I know most experienced shooters will watch the target closely and account for this. But newer shooters may not take this into account and even adjust parallax to try and accommodate.
 
Mike I don’t what you think of this but Mirage can lead to vertical that shooters don’t take account for. If you shoot in morning over wet grass as the sun is coming up or shooting over sand the same, if wind is not blowing or in slight gusts it can be a factor.
I know that a lot of the cheaper Chinese scopes may not show this? Shooter will chase there zero not taking mirage into account, they may shoot when flags drop and this might actually be not a good time to pull the trigger? I’ve had this happen to me! I know most experienced shooters will watch the target closely and account for this. But newer shooters may not take this into account and even adjust parallax to try and accommodate.
That is certainly another factor.

It's not just the mirage changing where you think you are aiming ...but also the heat rising straight up that will physically give vertical, too.

I learned long ago (the hard way) to not shoot during let offs...give me a 3-5 crosswind or heavier and I couldn't be happier.
 
Relating to the centerfire game I will add this. The don't shoot a let off is a very popular refrain there also. I don't always agree and here is why. If your a clicker kind of guy and you have been clicking and the condition goes away, whah, where do I hold enters your mind. I seldom click windage, occasionally I will click elevation. When the conditions go away, I know the place to hold. Hold on the dot and take it out. Something worth trying. It works for me. The vertical mirage is called boil. It can be misleading by your mind making it left or right but it's actually straight up. Boil scares me, I run if possible. Now it's all made even more confusing when the flags point East, the mirage goes west, and the holes in the target go north, lol. Plus I have always felt the bad shots under perfect conditions, ie a let off, are a reflection of a shot with poor bench manners.
 
Mike. Could you show some pics of what you’re talking about, and explain what’s happening, and then show one with a good vertical zero. Pics help me a lot to understand.

Keith
Keith, I'm not sure if a picture will help a whole lot in this situation but I'll see if I can find one.

On a light or calm day point at the same spot and take 25 shots. Even if 20 of those shots land in the same hole and five of them go low by a pellet diameter .... your actual zero is in between the two. Holding in the center for the 20 shots and getting an X will not be a good thing if the other five shots go low and miss the 10 ring. If you were holding in between the two shots, you would get all tens and still quite a few xs.

I'm just trying to point out that the zero we thought was perfect on the last card.....May not be perfect on the next card. Guys miss 10 s shooting indoors all the time because they're chasing exes and if they're gun shoots 20 shots in the same hole, they're gonna hold that gun right in the middle every time until they miss when the true group actually reveals itself.

Mike