FWB Scopes on 10 meter rifles

Hi Steve,
Here are some photos of my new toy. I pulled the scope off a couple days ago to shoot targets for the Casual Match on the Gateway forum so you get to see the factory provided sights in these photos. The two photos of the targets are from when I was using the scope. These are 5 shot groups at ten meters and 20 yards.
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That is an impressive piece of machinery Kenny!😁 Great shooting
 
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As much as I enjoy shooting iron sights I recently put a scope on my FWB 300 S. Originally I thought I’d just try it for a little while then put the original diopter sight back on. But I’ve learned that it’s a lot more fun to be able to hit tiny targets that I couldn’t even see before with the stock sights. I even moved back to 46 feet, the max I have in my basement. Where I live it’s the only place I have to shoot without going to the club. Makes this wonderfully accurate rifle much more versatile to me. View attachment 542030
Nice. What scope are you using?
 
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I put a few different scopes on my CMP rifle.
That was a Veyron 10x. The high adjustable rings allow for minimal scope adjustment.

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As much as I enjoy shooting iron sights I recently put a scope on my FWB 300 S. Originally I thought I’d just try it for a little while then put the original diopter sight back on. But I’ve learned that it’s a lot more fun to be able to hit tiny targets that I couldn’t even see before with the stock sights. I even moved back to 46 feet, the max I have in my basement. Where I live it’s the only place I have to shoot without going to the club. Makes this wonderfully accurate rifle much more versatile to me. View attachment 542030
46 feet = 15 yards , nice indoor range .
 
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I have no interest in scoping my 10 meter rifle because all I do is shoot 10 meter targets with it. That said, 10 meter sights are pretty much useless for anything except 10 meter targets. The sights limit the field of view to the point that it is difficult to find let’s say a chipmunk that needs to be dispatched. Damn, maybe I do need another with a scope. You guys are really hard on my wallet!

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I have to shoot across the finished part into the mechanical room but it works for me. Probably going to be moving soon. I probably won’t be this lucky again. View attachment 543387
i have 7 yards in the basement and shoot through the throat of my band saw . Band saw is apx. the mid point in the range .
 
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I have no interest in scoping my 10 meter rifle because all I do is shoot 10 meter targets with it. That said, 10 meter sights are pretty much useless for anything except 10 meter targets. The sights limit the field of view to the point that it is difficult to find let’s say a chipmunk that needs to be dispatched. Damn, maybe I do need another with a scope. You guys are really hard on my wallet!

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You don't need a scope - just an eyepiece that lets you adjust the rear sight's aperture size to fit that pesky real world existing outside of a well-lit 10-meter range :). Then you will discover how marvelously accurate and versatile such precise sights can really be.



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You don't need a scope - just need an eyepiece that lets you adjust the rear sight's aperture size to fit the real world outside of a well-lit 10-meter range. Then you will discover how marvelously accurate and versatile such precise sights really are.



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Thanks, The 510 would definitely fit my needs. I would love to expand the usability of that Feinwerkbau.
 
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Gehmann and Centra are the two biggest makers of those items - you might enjoy looking around on their sites. The adjustable opening lets you find the aperture size that best balances focus depth-of-field against brightness, whatever the lighting level is (most OEM eye disks have a fixed opening of about 1.0mm which, again, is great for the range but often too small elsewhere).

Note the irises are of "stacked" modular construction. You can add colored filters, a polarizer, or a 1.5x magnifying lens, in any combination of 1, 2, or all 3 (at rapidly escalating cost of course!), but again - just the simple adjustable opening is a huge plus.
 
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You don't need a scope - just an eyepiece that lets you adjust the rear sight's aperture size to fit that pesky real world existing outside of a well-lit 10-meter range :). Then you will discover how marvelously accurate and versatile such precise sights can really be.



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Can you see the edge of a playing card or maybe a fly or similar very small targets at 50 feet or more? That’s where the scope makes my 10 meter rifle more versatile. If I were just shooting bullseyes I would never have scoped it.
 
You don't need a scope - just an eyepiece that lets you adjust the rear sight's aperture size to fit that pesky real world existing outside of a well-lit 10-meter range :). Then you will discover how marvelously accurate and versatile such precise sights can really be.



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So who has these 510's instock and ready to sell?
 
Can you see the edge of a playing card or maybe a fly or similar very small targets at 50 feet or more? That’s where the scope makes my 10 meter rifle more versatile. If I were just shooting bullseyes I would never have scoped it.
True enuff, an iris - even one with a lens - is not a substitute for a scope. But it is a huge improvement that lets you use high-class iron sights to their max potential. I can whack 2-inch pill bottles at 35 yards pretty reliably, but an edge-on card would be a bit much! :oops:

Note that Merit makes similar units for US-made sights. Gehmann also offers their units with US threading, or you can get a simple threaded adapter to fit the German eyepiece thread (9.5 x 1.0mm) to the typical US one (7/32" - 40). This is my favorite solution, as it lets you use a single iris on most any aperture sights out there. (Caveat: this works perfectly with a standard iris, but reduces your field of view with a lens, since you're looking through the US sight's smaller hole.)

Pic is an older Gehmann iris on a Williams sight, using the adapter.

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