Well, my little F10 went from Hero to zero REALLY quick.
Check out post #12 here....
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Forgot to mention that the bearing went out on the fan in the midst of all this, so had to replace the little computer fan too.
Finally got it to build pressure after trouble-shooting multiple leaks on the hard line connection to cylinders, which ultimately took some of the yellow teflon tape to remedy.
After all that, pressure built up to around 4100psi, and then it imploded again. Not literally, just mechanically. Simultaneously the: retaining washers for the connecting bar went flying, the connecting bar itself launched a few feet, the bushing for the upper cylinder rod slipped out of it's home again, causing the connecting block to bend the right support column, AGAIN. I was able to bend it back once, but aluminum only bends so many times before it snaps......
Gathered up the pieces and found the oil impregnated bushings on the connecting bar are shot. Luckily they're a wear part so it didn't oval out the holes in the connecting bar. Looks like they can be had from Mcmaster-Carr.
Obviously, I've got things all out of alignment at this point, but not sure what to do to get them all happy again.
I've got a parts request out to OCO labs and can't do much til I hear back from them. Thinking of a new crank arm and connecting bar.....if they can be had. I'd like to get er running again, but also sick enough of it that I just dropped some coin on the Yong Heng, "hardback" non-set pressure variety. I spent a few hours comparing Ebay versus Amazon as a source and ultimately settled on buying from Amazon retailer, "smarketbuy" partly on @Gerry52 s recommendation. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829HBRPD?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Clicked on the $14 coupon to get it down to $256 pre tax and $293 post tax, and also sprung for the 3 year protection plan for $34. All said, $327 and supposedly will have it by the end of the week. Yes, I consider it disposable.
Spent a bit of time looking at the GX compressors but my goal is to be able to fill large tanks, and it seems like the GX stuff is not liquid cooled, and directed more at the gun filling market. I don't think the Yong Heng is intended to be used for filling large tanks either, but I found enough reports of guys filling tanks in short bursts that I'm going to try also. Seems like a run time of 10-12 minutes and then a cool off of 30 minutes, repeating as many times as necessary, has been working for a fair # of AGN members. Will know for myself shortly.
The really frustrating thing here is that I consider myself fairly proficient in dealing with mechanical issues. I've diagnosed and successfully fixed problems with dishwashers, dryers, washers, fridges, stoves, tractors, vehicles, small gas engines (generators, weedeaters, lawnmowers, etc), etc. When something breaks or otherwise quits doing what it's supposed to, I'm the take-it-apart-and-try-to-fix-it-before-just-buying-another-one type. . After a couple days and too many hours worth of effort, the F10 sure has me stumped though.
I was hoping that F10 would get me a decade of good use, and that's why I originally chose it, but right now it's not looking like it will. Luckily I got in at the $500 price a few months before Tom Kaye shut his doors, and since my local place charges $15 per fill, and then another couple bucks worth of taxes, I've more than paid for the Shoebox by avoiding all those nearly $20 fills for the last 4 years. On that same basis, the $327 for the Yong Heng will have paid for itself in about 6 months, if it lives that long! And if the warranty gets me replacements for 3 years, or even a refund, it will more than pay for itself.
This post isn't meant to be a WTS listing, but notice to you Shoeboxers, if I can't get it running again, there may be an F10 parts donor on the market real quick. Will have to decide if I want to chop shop it and sell parts separately, or one fell swoop sell the whole thing to one buyer. Will try to get it pumping away first.
Check out post #12 here....
Shoebox F10 rebuild?
Just hit 92hrs on my F10. Still all the original orings. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that around 100 hrs it needs a rebuild. Is the best practice to go ahead and rebuild here pretty soon, or just keep running it? (Ie. Do I fix what ain't broken, or take the mindset of an ounce of...
www.airgunnation.com Forgot to mention that the bearing went out on the fan in the midst of all this, so had to replace the little computer fan too.
Finally got it to build pressure after trouble-shooting multiple leaks on the hard line connection to cylinders, which ultimately took some of the yellow teflon tape to remedy.
After all that, pressure built up to around 4100psi, and then it imploded again. Not literally, just mechanically. Simultaneously the: retaining washers for the connecting bar went flying, the connecting bar itself launched a few feet, the bushing for the upper cylinder rod slipped out of it's home again, causing the connecting block to bend the right support column, AGAIN. I was able to bend it back once, but aluminum only bends so many times before it snaps......
Gathered up the pieces and found the oil impregnated bushings on the connecting bar are shot. Luckily they're a wear part so it didn't oval out the holes in the connecting bar. Looks like they can be had from Mcmaster-Carr.
Obviously, I've got things all out of alignment at this point, but not sure what to do to get them all happy again.
I've got a parts request out to OCO labs and can't do much til I hear back from them. Thinking of a new crank arm and connecting bar.....if they can be had. I'd like to get er running again, but also sick enough of it that I just dropped some coin on the Yong Heng, "hardback" non-set pressure variety. I spent a few hours comparing Ebay versus Amazon as a source and ultimately settled on buying from Amazon retailer, "smarketbuy" partly on @Gerry52 s recommendation. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0829HBRPD?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Clicked on the $14 coupon to get it down to $256 pre tax and $293 post tax, and also sprung for the 3 year protection plan for $34. All said, $327 and supposedly will have it by the end of the week. Yes, I consider it disposable.
Spent a bit of time looking at the GX compressors but my goal is to be able to fill large tanks, and it seems like the GX stuff is not liquid cooled, and directed more at the gun filling market. I don't think the Yong Heng is intended to be used for filling large tanks either, but I found enough reports of guys filling tanks in short bursts that I'm going to try also. Seems like a run time of 10-12 minutes and then a cool off of 30 minutes, repeating as many times as necessary, has been working for a fair # of AGN members. Will know for myself shortly.
The really frustrating thing here is that I consider myself fairly proficient in dealing with mechanical issues. I've diagnosed and successfully fixed problems with dishwashers, dryers, washers, fridges, stoves, tractors, vehicles, small gas engines (generators, weedeaters, lawnmowers, etc), etc. When something breaks or otherwise quits doing what it's supposed to, I'm the take-it-apart-and-try-to-fix-it-before-just-buying-another-one type. . After a couple days and too many hours worth of effort, the F10 sure has me stumped though.
I was hoping that F10 would get me a decade of good use, and that's why I originally chose it, but right now it's not looking like it will. Luckily I got in at the $500 price a few months before Tom Kaye shut his doors, and since my local place charges $15 per fill, and then another couple bucks worth of taxes, I've more than paid for the Shoebox by avoiding all those nearly $20 fills for the last 4 years. On that same basis, the $327 for the Yong Heng will have paid for itself in about 6 months, if it lives that long! And if the warranty gets me replacements for 3 years, or even a refund, it will more than pay for itself.
This post isn't meant to be a WTS listing, but notice to you Shoeboxers, if I can't get it running again, there may be an F10 parts donor on the market real quick. Will have to decide if I want to chop shop it and sell parts separately, or one fell swoop sell the whole thing to one buyer. Will try to get it pumping away first.
