Is this air compressor good for the altaros booster pump I'm filling a 45min scba tank and a small guppy tank I'm not insanely worried on fill times
Shop compressor for altaros booster pump?!?.
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I imagine you've already seen this.....but if not.....
www.airgunnation.com
I'm using a California Air Tools, 20 gallon, 5.3cfm @ 90psi compressor. The model # is 20020. Look's like they're running about $500 on Amazon right now. I think I paid around $300 for an almost new one from my local craigslist. Lots of compressors on craiglist or facebook martkeplace usually, some are worn out crap, some are barely used.
I highly recommend the California Air Tools brand. The big pro for the CAT compressors is that they're much quieter than comparable compressors from other manufacturers. I've also got a little 5 gallon Dewalt pancake compressor that I think is rated about...
Just received an Altaros booster
Other HPA sources I've used were a Shoebox F10 (x4 or 5 years) and a Yong Heng (x7 months). Sold the F10 as a parts donor when I got frustrated trying to source replacement parts and the Yong Heng is still ticking just fine, with the caveat that the oil gets REALLY dark REALLY quick (impending...
www.airgunnation.com I'm using a California Air Tools, 20 gallon, 5.3cfm @ 90psi compressor. The model # is 20020. Look's like they're running about $500 on Amazon right now. I think I paid around $300 for an almost new one from my local craigslist. Lots of compressors on craiglist or facebook martkeplace usually, some are worn out crap, some are barely used.
I highly recommend the California Air Tools brand. The big pro for the CAT compressors is that they're much quieter than comparable compressors from other manufacturers. I've also got a little 5 gallon Dewalt pancake compressor that I think is rated about...
It will work, but you'll have to set things up with a favorable duty cycle for the shop compressor so you don't burn it out. You'll get results like were discussed in the other thread you posted - probably on the order of two hours to add 1000 psi to the tank, if you can live with that . . .
What happened to the big 12 CFM (@ 90 PSI ) / 80 gallon tank unit you eventually said you had back in that thread?
What happened to the big 12 CFM (@ 90 PSI ) / 80 gallon tank unit you eventually said you had back in that thread?
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That one is my dad's.... Apparently I'm not allowed to use it... Plus the booster pump says 145psi 8cfm max
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Get the CS4 like you were talking about here:
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and you will have less headaches to deal with, plus a lot more room left over.
Thoughts on the gx cs4?
Im thinking about buying the gx cs4 for filling my 45 min SCBA tank and a my small guppy tank what's y'all's thoughts on them?.
www.airgunnation.com and you will have less headaches to deal with, plus a lot more room left over.
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The gx is Chinese I need reliable air source which is the booster pump especially when I start building my own big boresGet the CS4 like you were talking about here:
Thoughts on the gx cs4?
Im thinking about buying the gx cs4 for filling my 45 min SCBA tank and a my small guppy tank what's y'all's thoughts on them?.
and you will have less headaches to deal with, plus a lot more room left over.
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Caveat Emptor...
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Praise for the Shoebox booster.
Is there anything out there like the original Shoebox? Mine has been trouble free other than a couple routine rebuilds over the course of something like 15 years. Where it is electric powered it only needs a tiny/quiet compressor and an occasional dab of white lithium grease on the pistons. I...
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Conner, save your money, buy an E5K1:
Or perhaps an E5K2:
And never look back. Think about your experience with the YH. Don't repeat it.
Or perhaps an E5K2:
And never look back. Think about your experience with the YH. Don't repeat it.
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The CS4 has only been out for a bit over a year or so, but the initial reports on it are very good - many users have been pushing theirs hard and they are doing well. @F6Hawk has had is all apart and really can attest to the quality of the construction.
The EK5 is the same basic unit, doubled up into one box with other upgrades for higher output and a longer duty cycle. If you are serious about big bores, these are very worthy of consideration. Unless you will feeding the Altoros with a big shop compressor like your dad's (which apparently can provide it more air than it can use - the flow in can be controlled), thus letting the Altoros run at maximum speed, then your "main hobby" may well become filling your tanks rather than shooting the guns.
And the Guppy tank won't provide many shots on a big bore either - it might be good on a hunt, but not at the range or at the bench . . .
I have and love my old reliable Shoebox (and Guppy tank), but it would struggle to feed a lot of big bore shooting (which I don't do - all of my guns are under ~50 FPE, most well under that). One of the interesting metrics I calculate on my tuning spread sheet I use for my guns is the number of pellets that can be shot per minute of runtime of my compressor. Even my most powerful guns do about 5 shots per minute on this metric, and most are are at 8 or higher. So at worst I get to shoot a full tin of rellets (or more) from every hour I run the Shoebox. With a big bore, that metric would fall to well under one, meaning that I'd be running the Shoebox probably for 2-3 (or more, depending on the power level) minutes for every shot - and that would get old after a while. Something like the big AEA Zeus would probably need about 45 minutes of runtime per shot . . .
And don't forget that my Shoebox is probably about 3-4 times as fast as the Altoros will be with that shop compressor you linked to - you'll spend a lot of time filling tanks! And the CS4 is faster than the Shoebox to begin with; the EK5 even much more so.
The EK5 is the same basic unit, doubled up into one box with other upgrades for higher output and a longer duty cycle. If you are serious about big bores, these are very worthy of consideration. Unless you will feeding the Altoros with a big shop compressor like your dad's (which apparently can provide it more air than it can use - the flow in can be controlled), thus letting the Altoros run at maximum speed, then your "main hobby" may well become filling your tanks rather than shooting the guns.
And the Guppy tank won't provide many shots on a big bore either - it might be good on a hunt, but not at the range or at the bench . . .
I have and love my old reliable Shoebox (and Guppy tank), but it would struggle to feed a lot of big bore shooting (which I don't do - all of my guns are under ~50 FPE, most well under that). One of the interesting metrics I calculate on my tuning spread sheet I use for my guns is the number of pellets that can be shot per minute of runtime of my compressor. Even my most powerful guns do about 5 shots per minute on this metric, and most are are at 8 or higher. So at worst I get to shoot a full tin of rellets (or more) from every hour I run the Shoebox. With a big bore, that metric would fall to well under one, meaning that I'd be running the Shoebox probably for 2-3 (or more, depending on the power level) minutes for every shot - and that would get old after a while. Something like the big AEA Zeus would probably need about 45 minutes of runtime per shot . . .
And don't forget that my Shoebox is probably about 3-4 times as fast as the Altoros will be with that shop compressor you linked to - you'll spend a lot of time filling tanks! And the CS4 is faster than the Shoebox to begin with; the EK5 even much more so.
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Wow well maybe the cs4 is the way to go there is some bad reviews on Amazon but maybe they have worked out the bugs.
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You'll find bad reviews on everything on a big enough platform. If somebody were giving away $1000 to anyone that asked for it - but only one time - some schmuck would give it a one star review because "he needed $5000, not just $1000" . . . .
Also, there is a variation in output on everything, and some units are going to be better than others - and there is a variation on user's use of the products, and yours is at the high end of most. You might wear out most of the lower end options, and even some of the better ones.
Based on conversations with F6Hawk, if I had to replace my Shoeboxs I would likely do it with the CS4. I think the right way to think about this hobby is to think in terms of how much, on average, do we spend on HPA per year or so. Given your young age and high air usage, if you stick with airguns for life the lowest cost / highest satisfaction long term answer is probably going to be a dive compressor (an Alkin, if cared for, should easily last a lifetime for an airgunner). But the CS4 will get you in the game for at least a few years - it is possible that you could wear it out, but if you go with the Altoros you will probably wear out several shop compressors too, if you don't start with a big one.
Also, there is a variation in output on everything, and some units are going to be better than others - and there is a variation on user's use of the products, and yours is at the high end of most. You might wear out most of the lower end options, and even some of the better ones.
Based on conversations with F6Hawk, if I had to replace my Shoeboxs I would likely do it with the CS4. I think the right way to think about this hobby is to think in terms of how much, on average, do we spend on HPA per year or so. Given your young age and high air usage, if you stick with airguns for life the lowest cost / highest satisfaction long term answer is probably going to be a dive compressor (an Alkin, if cared for, should easily last a lifetime for an airgunner). But the CS4 will get you in the game for at least a few years - it is possible that you could wear it out, but if you go with the Altoros you will probably wear out several shop compressors too, if you don't start with a big one.
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Also calculate the electricity use and cost per shot not just the time. Those boosters sure burn a lot of electricity are probably the most inefficient compressor sold.
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I imagine you've already seen this.....but if not.....
www.airgunnation.com
I'm using a California Air Tools, 20 gallon, 5.3cfm @ 90psi compressor. The model # is 20020. Look's like they're running about $500 on Amazon right now. I think I paid around $300 for an almost new one from my local craigslist. Lots of compressors on craiglist or facebook martkeplace usually, some are worn out crap, some are barely used.
I highly recommend the California Air Tools brand. The big pro for the CAT compressors is that they're much quieter than comparable compressors from other manufacturers. I've also got a little 5 gallon Dewalt pancake compressor that I think is rated about 10dbs louder than the 20 gallon CAT....lemme tell ya, that 10ish dBs is a huge difference.
Anyway, in that link above you'll see that I've fiddled with the air restrictor on the Altaros quite a bit. You can set it to run the shop compressor to death and it stays really hot for however long it's running, or you can be much more conservative and set the restrictor to allow the shop compressor to almost completely cool before it kicks on again. There are two pros to slow fills, the most obvious is that your shop compressor should last much longer. The second is that moisture condenses out of cold air more readily than it does out of hot air. So with slower fills you get more moisture out of the air in the low pressure blow outs prior to the Altaros. In other words, less water in your tanks and theoretically less water in your guns.
I personally wouldn't want to run my Altaros with anything smaller than I've got. Which is again, a 20 gallon tank and 5.3cfm @ 90psi. I find myself occasionally looking at big 220v belt driven, oil lubricated shop compressors b/c they would really be better at running the Altaros than a little oilless compressor. (a couple of the tampon type filters already in my system would prevent any oil from making it to the tanks).
Just received an Altaros booster
Other HPA sources I've used were a Shoebox F10 (x4 or 5 years) and a Yong Heng (x7 months). Sold the F10 as a parts donor when I got frustrated trying to source replacement parts and the Yong Heng is still ticking just fine, with the caveat that the oil gets REALLY dark REALLY quick (impending...
www.airgunnation.com I'm using a California Air Tools, 20 gallon, 5.3cfm @ 90psi compressor. The model # is 20020. Look's like they're running about $500 on Amazon right now. I think I paid around $300 for an almost new one from my local craigslist. Lots of compressors on craiglist or facebook martkeplace usually, some are worn out crap, some are barely used.
I highly recommend the California Air Tools brand. The big pro for the CAT compressors is that they're much quieter than comparable compressors from other manufacturers. I've also got a little 5 gallon Dewalt pancake compressor that I think is rated about 10dbs louder than the 20 gallon CAT....lemme tell ya, that 10ish dBs is a huge difference.
Anyway, in that link above you'll see that I've fiddled with the air restrictor on the Altaros quite a bit. You can set it to run the shop compressor to death and it stays really hot for however long it's running, or you can be much more conservative and set the restrictor to allow the shop compressor to almost completely cool before it kicks on again. There are two pros to slow fills, the most obvious is that your shop compressor should last much longer. The second is that moisture condenses out of cold air more readily than it does out of hot air. So with slower fills you get more moisture out of the air in the low pressure blow outs prior to the Altaros. In other words, less water in your tanks and theoretically less water in your guns.
I personally wouldn't want to run my Altaros with anything smaller than I've got. Which is again, a 20 gallon tank and 5.3cfm @ 90psi. I find myself occasionally looking at big 220v belt driven, oil lubricated shop compressors b/c they would really be better at running the Altaros than a little oilless compressor. (a couple of the tampon type filters already in my system would prevent any oil from making it to the tanks).
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Solution I have a 60 gallon 12 scfm @90psi gonna see if my dad will let me use it... Or I might buy a cheap 5scfm air compressor from harbor freight or Lowe's Ill be filling a small guppy tank and a 45 min SCBA tank
I imagine you've already seen this.....but if not.....
Just received an Altaros booster
Other HPA sources I've used were a Shoebox F10 (x4 or 5 years) and a Yong Heng (x7 months). Sold the F10 as a parts donor when I got frustrated trying to source replacement parts and the Yong Heng is still ticking just fine, with the caveat that the oil gets REALLY dark REALLY quick (impending...
I'm using a California Air Tools, 20 gallon, 5.3cfm @ 90psi compressor. The model # is 20020. Look's like they're running about $500 on Amazon right now. I think I paid around $300 for an almost new one from my local craigslist. Lots of compressors on craiglist or facebook martkeplace usually, some are worn out crap, some are barely used.
I highly recommend the California Air Tools brand. The big pro for the CAT compressors is that they're much quieter than comparable compressors from other manufacturers. I've also got a little 5 gallon Dewalt pancake compressor that I think is rated about 10dbs louder than the 20 gallon CAT....lemme tell ya, that 10ish dBs is a huge difference.
Anyway, in that link above you'll see that I've fiddled with the air restrictor on the Altaros quite a bit. You can set it to run the shop compressor to death and it stays really hot for however long it's running, or you can be much more conservative and set the restrictor to allow the shop compressor to almost completely cool before it kicks on again. There are two pros to slow fills, the most obvious is that your shop compressor should last much longer. The second is that moisture condenses out of cold air more readily than it does out of hot air. So with slower fills you get more moisture out of the air in the low pressure blow outs prior to the Altaros. In other words, less water in your tanks and theoretically less water in your guns.
I personally wouldn't want to run my Altaros with anything smaller than I've got. Which is again, a 20 gallon tank and 5.3cfm @ 90psi. I find myself occasionally looking at big 220v belt driven, oil lubricated shop compressors b/c they would really be better at running the Altaros than a little oilless compressor. (a couple of the tampon type filters already in my system would prevent any oil from making it to the tanks).
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