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Beeman C1 in .22 flavor
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They're 13 1/2
It was a general question about the maximum standard length of carbine barrels. Not directed at the guns you posted.
For instance, a TX200 MK3 standard length barrel is specified as being 13.19", which I would consider carbine length, yet there is a factory designated carbine version of that gun which has only a slightly shorter barrel. So it seems like there's a grey area when we talk about carbine guns unless the factory states "this is the standard version and this is a carbine version."
 
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It was a general question about the maximum standard length of carbine barrels. Not directed at the guns you posted.
For instance, a TX200 MK3 standard length barrel is specified as being 13.19", which I would consider carbine length, yet there is a factory designated carbine version of that gun which has only a slightly shorter barrel. So it seems like there's a grey area when we talk about carbine guns unless the factory states "this is the standard version and this is a carbine version."

I wasn't talking about the ones I posted. I was saying some of the other posts were clearly not showing carbines.
 
+1 on the C1! Designed from the ground up as a true carbine, built around the classic Webley Vulcan powerplant.

Plenty of power (last one I had went over 900 FPS with .177 Hobbys), a very "quick" action, and the straight-line stock controls recoil movement well. I've had a couple and found them surprisingly easy to shoot accurately, in spite of the fact that the grip geometry is quite uncomfortable for me.
 
+1 on the C1! Designed from the ground up as a true carbine, built around the classic Webley Vulcan powerplant.

Plenty of power (last one I had went over 900 FPS with .177 Hobbys), a very "quick" action, and the straight-line stock controls recoil movement well. I've had a couple and found them surprisingly easy to shoot accurately, in spite of the fact that the grip geometry is quite uncomfortable for me.
The .22 C1 is right at 11.5fpe. I put an old Bushnell Sportview on it. It'll light up the 1 1/2" spinners at 36yrds or any squirrels that step into the perimeter. LOL
Only thing I dislike about that gun and the spitfire are the horrendous triggers.
 
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The .22 C1 is right at 11.5fpe. I put an old Bushnell Sportview on it. It'll light up the 1 1/2" spinners at 36yrds or any squirrels that step into the perimeter. LOL
Only thing I dislike about that gun and the spitfire are the horrendous triggers.
Back off the trigger spring set screw on the C1 until the creep goes away. You might be able to go a little further. Then they’re not too bad. Just make sure it won’t bump fire. It’s a single stage.
 
+1 on the C1! Designed from the ground up as a true carbine, built around the classic Webley Vulcan powerplant.

Plenty of power (last one I had went over 900 FPS with .177 Hobbys), a very "quick" action, and the straight-line stock controls recoil movement well. I've had a couple and found them surprisingly easy to shoot accurately, in spite of the fact that the grip geometry is quite uncomfortable for me.
Mike

One of my first airguns was a .22 C1. Definitely a severly underrated rifle. I could take out a sparrow at 35 yards with ease with that old Webley.
The "shotgun" style stock was another Goudy design. As you mentioned, a true Carbine from the drawing board onwards.
 
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Here's my uber carbine -- HW977UK (Uber Karbine - not factory designation) that's 37.5" OAL. It's a 97k with the muzzlebrake removed, a 77k front unit added, and shortened cocking lever. The stock is by an unknown maker.

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That's a pretty cool set up, is it just as accurate as before? Also why is the action so high in the stock?
 
That's a pretty cool set up, is it just as accurate as before? Also why is the action so high in the stock?
Thanks...it actually didn't lose any accuracy since I didn't chop the barrel. The muzzle brake extends about 3" ahead of the end of the barrel, so removing it reduced the OAL by that much, which was the perfect for the OAL desired.

The action so high up in the stock is because (I think) the inletting of the stock is cut higher. Things like the stainless steel trigger unit pin in the end cap are usually covered by the stock, but here they're visible. It doesn't affect the accuracy, though.
 
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1986 RWS Diana 36 (large comp tube). I chopped the barrel to 15-1/2” inches and had It re-choked and crowned by John in PA. I also cut a few coils to reduce the power, deburred, polished internals, lubed and installed a Chinese Beeman SS2 clone scope and Apex muzzle brake/weight. It’s now an extremely smooth, accurate shooting rifle!

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