Skout Airguns - Epoch Preview
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I would like to see the reviews of owners of the Epoch.
We need to know if we should rather start saving money for buying this change of Paradigm or if it was a good try than just did not worked.
We need to know if we should rather start saving money for buying this change of Paradigm or if it was a good try than just did not worked.
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She is amazing and I enjoyed talking to her on the phone. When the additional barrels are ready I'll reach out to you both. Also I'm a huge supporter of Bud, just with him a few weeks ago.
~Darryl SKW Team Ironmen Bud Orr factory team...Upvote 0
Thanks for the reply, Darryl! I'll also be looking for a .30 slug barrel when ready. You can always reach out to me at [email protected]. I'd like to get more involved with Skout, if possible.She is amazing and I enjoyed talking to her on the phone. When the additional barrels are ready I'll reach out to you both. Also I'm a huge supporter of Bud, just with him a few weeks ago.
So about caliber swapping - could you explain that for the folks reading? Typically a barrel, magazine, and probe is required. Is that the same requirements for the Epoch? How easy is it to swap out your caliber?
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I'm not really in the market for one until a pile of money lands on my lap -- but curious what the weight of the gun is?
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Hello, the weight should be around 8.5 to 9 pounds without the scope on the final production. ~Darryl
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This is our 1st version. In the future we will be going in that direction. Hope this helps ~ Darryl
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What is the volume of the regulated plenum in cc, it seems to me that it is small. With a larger plenum, they would get more efficiency and power!...
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Thanks Darryl.
We are anxious to see the Epoch working.
For sure hammer less rifles are the future!!!
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You are correct, on a typical airgun that would apply. But this isn't a typical airgun. I'll be able to answer in more detail very soon.~Darryl
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Then you have built a perfect valve with a perfect solenoid, why did you stop at 160 bar regulated plenum, raise the pressure because it's time for heavy slugs
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At that price I think I’d just buy an Alpha wolf. That’s a hefty price tag for a gun (and I own a leishy 2 I’ve spent over 3k on with accessories) Especially from a company that has no other offerings. No entry level. No mid range offerings. I think what happened was you saw daystate being a gun with electronics and saw yourself in the same price point. The reximex throne comes with barrels and a case. That doesn’t make a gun worth $3k. This is an overpriced paint market flinging led. How much did you have to pay to get your gun in that scene in the new Jurassic world movie? Is that why the price is so high? $1800-2k seems maybe reasonable. If it performs. Theres more engineering in an impact and it doesn’t cost 3k. I think you’re gonna price yourself right out of the market. You’ll probably sell a few out of curiosity but until you’ve been in the hands of the average guy. And we can see how it performs I think your gonna be sitting on the rifles.
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In my opinión, a Wolverine at 1800 - 2000 and a Vulcan 3 1800 are perfectly in price.
The Epoch implies a new Technology or a Technology closer to the HUBEN, LCS, Rattler and Sidewinder. It is absolutely clear that the future is in this new way of firing, hammer less.
If the Epoch happens to be efficient, accurate, solid made, reliable, confortable, silent, an with a wide range of fps adjustment possible, could worth 2500 with one barrel, easily.
The idea of telling us : we will give you three barrels and you should try them to find if any of those barrels works for you, do not precisely sells confidence.
I think that must of us would say: Just give one barrel, a CZ that we know that will shoot as a champ both pellets and slugs.
All new Technology (ok) But attached to a barrel that we know that performs.
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It always amuses me to see how much controversy, noise and heat (but no light) can be generated by we, the members of AGN, even before an air rifle is available. There seems to be a split between those who think that its an over-priced paintball gun and those who believe that it will be the future of airguns.
From my perspective, its impossible to say until we actually have the guns, but there are some markers.
First of all, these guys do have some credibility from the start. Much the same was said about them in the paintball community just before they turned the whole thing upside down and became a dominant force (if not THE dominant force…) This is not just some bunch of guys in their basement, or their mom’s garage with their dad’s lathe. They’re serious guys, who are obviously investing in time and equipment and money to enter the PCP space. Discounting and thrashing them before we actually know what’s going on seems…unwise.
Secondly, the concept seems quite interesting to me. It does not seem to be the same old same old. It’s not yet another copy of the FX Impact, or a copy of the Impact with an electronic trigger. They have obviously made the technology work in the paintball arena, now we will see if they can adapt and innovate in the PCP one.
Third, we have actually seen a little bit of information on how the actual gun shoots, and not just the company videos. We’ve had a couple of credible airgunners go try it, and they came away impressed. Is that enough? Obviously not, but it’s not nothing either.
As for the price, well, it depends. If it dopes all they say, with the various barrels and the implied flexibility, plus good QC and manufacturing, then why would it not be worth what other high end airguns cost? They are clearly not going after the mass market, but rather taking on the high end luxury good end of the spectrum.
It won’t be for everyone, but they certainly have my attention!
Chris
From my perspective, its impossible to say until we actually have the guns, but there are some markers.
First of all, these guys do have some credibility from the start. Much the same was said about them in the paintball community just before they turned the whole thing upside down and became a dominant force (if not THE dominant force…) This is not just some bunch of guys in their basement, or their mom’s garage with their dad’s lathe. They’re serious guys, who are obviously investing in time and equipment and money to enter the PCP space. Discounting and thrashing them before we actually know what’s going on seems…unwise.
Secondly, the concept seems quite interesting to me. It does not seem to be the same old same old. It’s not yet another copy of the FX Impact, or a copy of the Impact with an electronic trigger. They have obviously made the technology work in the paintball arena, now we will see if they can adapt and innovate in the PCP one.
Third, we have actually seen a little bit of information on how the actual gun shoots, and not just the company videos. We’ve had a couple of credible airgunners go try it, and they came away impressed. Is that enough? Obviously not, but it’s not nothing either.
As for the price, well, it depends. If it dopes all they say, with the various barrels and the implied flexibility, plus good QC and manufacturing, then why would it not be worth what other high end airguns cost? They are clearly not going after the mass market, but rather taking on the high end luxury good end of the spectrum.
It won’t be for everyone, but they certainly have my attention!
Chris
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Great point. "The idea of telling us : we will give you three barrels and you should try them to find if any of those barrels works for you, do not precisely sells confidence." Keep in mind that even JSB pellets are slightly different in sizing depending when you purchase. So giving you 3 barrels with about a thou difference on each barrel helps you make a choice when shooting.
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We can make a regulator that will go beyond 160 Bar but we are already very powerful.Then you have built a perfect valve with a perfect solenoid, why did you stop at 160 bar regulated plenum, raise the pressure because it's time for heavy slugs
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-Lets talk about what really matters here: -Plenum size and valve size equate to velocity of the projectile (44 grain 30 caliber) at pressure , will launch this projectile at 880 fps @ 1000 psi or 68.95 bar with a 889mm barrel (35")
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