I have a Ghost Carbine that I love, but the OP did not ask about the Ghost. @Mark_SoCal_626, of the two? And me not knowing much about either? I would choose the M4 in the Copper color scheme… Good luck with your decision…
. Super accurate though. Easily moa at 50.
I don't care how good it is with 3 regs. I like tuning, but habing to balance out 3 regs when I change my setting would get old WAY too quickly. I don’t believe the 3 regs is accurate. The epoch has a low pressure reg and a high pressure one. The lpr basically doesn’t need to really be adjusted. It just supplies air to the solenoid to open the valve. At least that is my understanding. It’s super easy to tune. Adjust velocity with the hpr and you can move it up or down under pressure. Set the velocity and then tweak the dwell. That doesn’t seem to effect velocity much but I noticed with mine when I got too much dwell in it the groups opened up noticeably. All there is too it.3 regs? Screw that
Idk about the m3 but with my m2 I didnt suffer from any low velocity shots at first unless I had a drastic change in temperature of you're reg wasn't up to par.
If you've never owned an impact or simply don't have one, I would go for the impact. 1 reg, quick tune adjustment, tons of aftermarket options.
Gotcha that makes sense. Are they around the same price point as an impact? I know they stopped selling the gun with 3 barrels but idk what they are priced at. Given you can pick ehatever color you want and tbey all look good is a plus, but can they shoot slugs? That would be my biggest concern.
They are close on price. Think scout is a bit more. 2300 or 2400 for a color I think. They do have slug barrels with a faster twist now but I have not tried one and doesn’t seem like there is a lot of info out there about them shooting slugs.
I know the mk4 now has only one regulater and everybody keeps saying this regulater is made of brass and hold more air preasure thats why you only need one regulater but as a person building and customizing i know brass is not a stronger metal so i dont get it now you tell me the regulater is titanium then you have my attention not sure if i can believe that and it is a metal that tarnishes even stainless would make sence be careful lol
Ahhh yeah, at that point I would still go for an m4, mostly because I hunt/pest and can shoot from just about anywhere. I'm not fixed to a bench and there is versatility and the community for parts.
I would say the impact is more conducive to hunting for sure. The epoch is really a bench gun.
Well maybe it has to done with the process of making a steel piston? Or maybe it's because the piston needs to be strong but it has to have a lower failure point?
You can adjust your trigger to make it much safer, just add a little magnetic “weight”. As received, the trigger was way too light for me. The manual has a good description of trigger adjustments.If hunting : EDIT..I sold an M3 to buy the epoch
IMPACT:
Much lighter and easy to carry.
Often suffer from low velocity first shot after sitting.
EPOCH:
Heavy like a tank
Electronic trigger is dangerously light. Diligence in using the safety switch is a must
Just Shooting:
Impact:
More precisely tunable for very low ES and SD
Much more involved tuning. May be a more precise bench gun.
Very accurate, quiet and air efficient when tuned well.
EPOCH:
More easily tuned but I have yet to be able to fine tune as well as an FX. Mine shooting 33.95 about a 14 ES is as good as I can get. Hasn’t mattered for my shooting out to 75 but if you are competing for money maybe it would
Is loud with stock mod. I bought a Donny adapter and buck rail mod. Much better.
I never did a direct test or anything but the Skout seems less air efficient than the FX.
MAINTENANCE
I never really had to do any in-depth maintenance on the impact or the Skout. However I’ve watched all the videos. The epoch seems much easier to get into and do whatever you need. I have no doubt that parts or service support will be a bit better and faster with Skout. I have called them several times and either talked with someone right away or the lady that answered had someone calm me back and it was same day. A+. Skout is American made right in PA. Can’t beat that. I think it wins this aspect for sure. Was a major deciding factor in me going with one.
Edit—— missed kind of a big negative of the epoch. When storing the gun it needs to be stored empty. I would like to point out you don’t need to drain the tank. It has an on off valve. Only the gun needs to be drained however this is wasted air each and every time. So far it seems when I degass and air back up the next time the bottle loses about 200 psi overall. Not a ton but worth pointing out.
Ok thanks man. I will look at that as I wouldn’t mind a little more force required to break the shot.
