Skout EPOCH Update - Dec 16th 2022

[Cloudrider]

Spools advantages in paintball, the user gets a softer smoother shooting experience, the air transfer is also easy on the paint. It has a linear style recoil feel. Poppets have a weighted hammer slamming a valve, the experience is more abrupt, not as smooth or as linear. Poppets are more air efficient and don't need to hold the tight tolerances of a spool to be reliable..

 

[Skout-airguns]

I haven't read-through all the post yet. I'll tell you this everyones opinion is valued. Good, bad or indifferent. When i get back into work Tuesday i'll review them all. Thanks ~Darryl

 

[AirShootist]

I haven't read-through all the post yet. I'll tell you this everyones opinion is valued. Good, bad or indifferent. When i get back into work Tuesday i'll review them all. Thanks ~Darryl

It's gonna be a confusing read, so let me give you a bit of context. We had a dude trolling in here hardcore, smashing the post button and ranting with a record 4 consecutive posts knocking the Skout and calling it a "china gun", which is absurd. He was also claiming to be some exalted inventor, I got him to admit he had no patents, but he still bizarrely insisted that everyone's opinion was worthless if they had never invented anything. (Again, sorry for going to battle with that guy, folks.... it was NYE and, well... someone had to call him out...).
The moderators deleted all his posts (and I think maybe some of mine), so the conversation is a bit confusing due to the missing posts that people are responding to....

To sum it up, this was basically that guy:

You are now ready to read this mind-boggling but salvageable thread. Haha. Happy New Year, Darryl!

-Warren

 

[Glem.Chally]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! HATE SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In addition this is more of a pictorial version of the summary. And my favorite part, AirShootist called him cringe and Grammerman said that's hate speech like some scared college student looking for a safe place while slinging insults.

 

[sb327]

When achieving the same velocity/fpe, starting with a higher pressure will yield less muzzle pressure. This is due to energy being gained by the AVERAGE pressure during its acceleration down the barrel. Obviously, a lower starting pressure would need to dwell longer than a higher initial pressure.

This decrease in muzzle pressure (again for a given velocity/energy achieved with higher pressure) will yield less turbulence at the muzzle.

Again, this is with all things (besides pressure) being equal.

Dave

 

[Skout-airguns]

It's gonna be a confusing read, so let me give you a bit of context. We had a dude trolling in here hardcore, smashing the post button and ranting with a record 4 consecutive posts knocking the Skout and calling it a "china gun", which is absurd. He was also claiming to be some exalted inventor, I got him to admit he had no patents, but he still bizarrely insisted that everyone's opinion was worthless if they had never invented anything. (Again, sorry for going to battle with that guy, folks.... it was NYE and, well... someone had to call him out...).
The moderators deleted all his posts (and I think maybe some of mine), so the conversation is a bit confusing due to the missing posts that people are responding to....

To sum it up, this was basically that guy:
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You are now ready to read this mind-boggling but salvageable thread. Haha. Happy New Year, Darryl!

-Warren

I would assume you have been on PB Nation before. I've seen them all . ~Darryl

 

[AirShootist]

I would assume you have been on PB Nation before. I've seen them all . ~Darryl

Ohhhhh you betcha

 

[Nsboost]

Was waiting for the yeet… pretty sure he was dealing with mental health issues, his behavioral pattern was a near dead match for a manic episode. Here’s DSM-5 criteria- https://www.pediatriconcall.com/calculators/dsm-5-manic-episode-criteria

Also @AirShootist - am I right in understanding a spool valve is better than a poppet valve due to the direction of force to push the valve into an open state. The spool moves laterally against the pressure where the poppet valve is pushed against the pressure…? Still early in my understanding of the mechanics. Thank you

(Basing my question off this)
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This is exactly.how transmissions have directed fluid to different clutch packs for years. It's pretty damn reliable. I would think that this would make tuning for a FPS much more simple.

 

[lutrev]

My 33 yard shots have improved immensely with the new 10 meter rule. hole in hole now, so the extra posts really helped.

 

[Skout-airguns]

Ohhhhh you betcha
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2006 DAMN! ~Darryl

 

[AirShootist]

2006 DAMN! ~Darryl

I had an older one from 2000 before that but it was before the days of autosaving passwords and I ended up losing it for good in high school...
Peep the username.... an ode to Smart Parts (I still have that blood red Ion...)

 

[EDventure]

I'll be interested to hear how easily the electronics allow for adjustment between pellet/slug weights. I know the MaxFlow regulator allows for adjustment up or down without degassing.

 

[Nomadic Pirate 66]

Bro, 4 posts in a row? Calm down. Also you just typed all that on a piece of equipment that is absolutely RIDDLED with Chinese parts.
95%+ of that gun is made in the USA. We're talking only the electronics from China, which is pretty unavoidable these days.

Well that is not what the other guy said, here his his quote :

"The gun was designed and created in PA at the Skout/GoG facility. The parts are replicated in Taiwan at a GoG owned facility since, as everyone knows, for many years, material replication is far less expensive there than here. Those parts are then shipped from Taiwan to the mainland and on to the US where the parts are finished, the guns assembled and tested and shipped to their various destinations"

From what he say it's 100% made in China and assembled in the US

 

[AirShootist]

Well that is not what the other guy said, here his his quote :

"The gun was designed and created in PA at the Skout/GoG facility. The parts are replicated in Taiwan at a GoG owned facility since, as everyone knows, for many years, material replication is far less expensive there than here. Those parts are then shipped from Taiwan to the mainland and on to the US where the parts are finished, the guns assembled and tested and shipped to their various destinations"

From what he say it's 100% made in China and assembled in the US

My bad if I missed that. I thought they were made at a machine shop in PA. If it is the same quality machining as the DLX Luxe I am not really concerned about where it's machined, tbh

 

[Nomadic Pirate 66]

My bad if I missed that. I thought they were made at a machine shop in PA. If it is the same quality machining as the DLX Luxe I am not really concerned about where it's machined, tbh

As I said I'm not at all against "Made in China " on the contrary I think they do good stuff,......But.......they need to take off the "Made in the USA" and just be honest so you don't have people like you making statements like:
" 95% is made in the US and only the electronics come from China"

 

[Emu]

Your more than welcome to spend $3k on a rifle sourced from parts made in China and wherever in Asia, I choose not to..

All iphones are made in China.

Everybody don't even think about it.

I will not spend 3k on an air rifle not even if made by Rolls Royce.

 

[_CTAIRGUNNER_]

Ohhhhh you betcha
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2 months before my join date! can't log in , can't retrieve password what a great time to be alive.

 

[Emu]

I haven't read-through all the post yet. I'll tell you this everyones opinion is valued. Good, bad or indifferent. When i get back into work Tuesday i'll review them all. Thanks ~Darryl

Darryl, we like you.

If you get tired of or uncomfortable with Skout Aiguns I will propose you to sell Aigun Technology rifles !!

 

[Emu]

All iphones are made in China.

Everybody don't even think about it.

I will not spend 3k on an air rifle not even if made by Rolls Royce.

It is very simple:

I have confirmed that my Airgun Technology rifles and Daystate rifles that are around 2k in price are more accurate than myself. So the compromised question is:

Why to spend 1k extra dollars in a rifle that will face exactly the same shooting limitation, myself?

 

[ctshooter]

All iphones are made in China.

Everybody don't even think about it.

I will not spend 3k on an air rifle not even if made by Rolls Royce.

LOL - Don’t give Rolls Royce any credit. I would NEVER own any airgun made by Rolls Royce. Had a PM once who owned two and cursed them as the most unreliable cars ever made. At least one of them was always in the shop.