Sling option without drilling stock

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I remember when I was a young teenager and drilled my first stock, I was a little nervous. And then the second stock I was a little nervous, but after that it was no big deal. First I center punched then made sure I had the drill lined up perfectly and just let the drill feed itself in with light pressure. Just take some calipers and measure the small diameter at the bottom of the threads to find out what drill you need. Sometimes it doesn’t hurt to use a pilot drill first. But use one that is much smaller than the final size drill or it can grab.And then when you screw the Studs in, also take your time and don’t force them or you could possibly crack your stock. They all worked out fine for me. It never affected the value of any of my guns. Actually it made them more valuable after I put the swivels and sling on it. They were all hunting rifles anyway. But they do make slings that will fit to your stock without swivels. I’ve seen examples on shotguns that people would use with a slug barrel when deer season came in and afterwords they can take it off and put their regular choked Barrel back on. 
 
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Take it slow, there are many video on youtube on the steps totake prior to drilling... Personally, I like starting the hole with one of those hollow-core bits. Haven't had any splinter. Finish the hole to the correct debt with a brad-point drill bit... As I've said, take it slow...





When in doubt, it's ok to ask for help. If there aren't any gunsmith nearby, lookup a cabinet maker... That's what I did, a few years back.
 
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Take it slow, there are many video on youtube on the steps totake prior to drilling... Personally, I like starting the hole with one of those hollow-core bits. Haven't had any splinter. Finish the hole to the correct debt with a brad-point drill bit... As I've said, take it slow...





When in doubt, it's ok to ask for help. If there aren't any gunsmith nearby, lookup a cabinet maker... That's what I did, a few years back.
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My stock is laminated anything special need to be done for that ?
 
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Never had to drill in laminated, maybe someone with experience will chime in. I'd guess that it would be the same... depending on the grain/thickness of the wood layers (or whatever they're called), I'd be doubly cautious if the limit/side of the holes are on the joints of the wood.

When I had to drill some fancy (not to say expensive) piece of walnut, I had pre-cut the fiber if the wood with an exacto-knife

Kind of like what this guy did, to inlay the piece of brass

https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=29664.0

If you are going for screw-in sling stud, your margin of error is some what bigger as the top-side of the holes will be covered by the stud.

- If using a brad-point bit, check which variant it is. As they are available for soft-wood and hard-wood. For my sling socket, I prefer the soft-wood model. The outside edge is not has aggressive and less chance of splinter.

 
 
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I drilled mine for swivels. I am amazed how much steadier I can shoot it offhand. Carrying it is so nice being able to throw it on my shoulder to open a gate. I put my front sling on the front of the forend I am glad I did for my use then the sling can be used as a pad if I rest on an object. I still need to put the tape on the stock. 





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What mounts did you use on the laminated stock?

How did you drill and secure them ?


 
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I just went with the old style sling studs that I have used on firearms for 40 years. Uncle Mikes I will post a amazon link bellow. I took out a drill index and picked out the bit that I thought would be right. Then I got a scrap piece of wood and drilled the hole into the scrap to test the fit. You want the screw to grab but not to tight to split anything. My first hole was too tight so I drilled another test in the scrap. The shorter stud goes in the forend but since I put mine in the end I found another of the long ones in a box of junk and used two of the long ones. I covered both areas of the stock with a piece of blue painters tape. Then marked my locations being sure I was in the center. I measured several times because It seems I make mistakes now days. After my pencil marks were on the tape I used a sharp pick like an awl to make my impressions where I would drill. Then I took a small bit like 1/16 or so and enlarged my indention twisting by hand just to be sure when starting to drill my bit didn't walk. Then I clamped my rifle upside down in a padded vise. Then I called my wife to watch and be sure I was holding my drill plumb in all directions. Then I drilled. I drilled twice one hole 1/2 the diameter than my final drill size. I marked my drill bit with painter tape to insure I drilled the correct depth. Length plus a diameter of the stud to insure I was deep enough. Take your time with the rear stud location. the stock is narrow and you want to be sure your in the center. After drilling I used some glue on the threads, my wife had some of the E6000 handy so that is what I used. A small dab you dont want it making a mess by squishing out. It probably isn't necessary cut it can'e hurt. I screwed the stud in with a punch that fit in the stud for leverage. I screwed the rear in a little tight and some very fine hairs of lamination started to show. I smithed that out with a super fine piece of sandpaper. I had never screwed into a laminated stock. You dont need to torque it as tight as I did. To keep from doing that if I did another I would enlarge the first of the hole with a countersinking bits by hand just a touch. Tonight I put some of the rubberized grip tape on it and I really like the way it turned out. 

Probably a longer story than you wanted, Jim



https://www.amazon.com/Uncle-Mikes-25200-Magnum-Swivel/dp/B002E6T1NU/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=uncle+mike%27s+sling+swivels&qid=1618358795&sr=8-3
 
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I just went with the old style sling studs that I have used on firearms for 40 years. Uncle Mikes I will post a amazon link bellow. I took out a drill index and picked out the bit that I thought would be right. Then I got a scrap piece of wood and drilled the hole into the scrap to test the fit. You want the screw to grab but not to tight to split anything. My first hole was too tight so I drilled another test in the scrap. The shorter stud goes in the forend but since I put mine in the end I found another of the long ones in a box of junk and used two of the long ones. I covered both areas of the stock with a piece of blue painters tape. Then marked my locations being sure I was in the center. I measured several times because It seems I make mistakes now days. After my pencil marks were on the tape I used a sharp pick like an awl to make my impressions where I would drill. Then I took a small bit like 1/16 or so and enlarged my indention twisting by hand just to be sure when starting to drill my bit didn't walk. Then I clamped my rifle upside down in a padded vise. Then I called my wife to watch and be sure I was holding my drill plumb in all directions. Then I drilled. I drilled twice one hole 1/2 the diameter than my final drill size. I marked my drill bit with painter tape to insure I drilled the correct depth. Length plus a diameter of the stud to insure I was deep enough. Take your time with the rear stud location. the stock is narrow and you want to be sure your in the center. After drilling I used some glue on the threads, my wife had some of the E6000 handy so that is what I used. A small dab you dont want it making a mess by squishing out. It probably isn't necessary cut it can'e hurt. I screwed the stud in with a punch that fit in the stud for leverage. I screwed the rear in a little tight and some very fine hairs of lamination started to show. I smithed that out with a super fine piece of sandpaper. I had never screwed into a laminated stock. You dont need to torque it as tight as I did. To keep from doing that if I did another I would enlarge the first of the hole with a countersinking bits by hand just a touch. Tonight I put some of the rubberized grip tape on it and I really like the way it turned out. 

Probably a longer story than you wanted, Jim



https://www.amazon.com/Uncle-Mikes-25200-Magnum-Swivel/dp/B002E6T1NU/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=uncle+mike%27s+sling+swivels&qid=1618358795&sr=8-3
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Jim,

Thank you much and not to much information for me as I need all the help I can get.

Like the screw in the end of forend so not to mess with resting for shooting.

Thank you
 
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