Below is a photo of that deep black hole.
They measured it at over 100 feet deep....
Matthias
The dark abyss of slug assist.
Upvote 0
Slugs- seems to be a rabbit hole.
- Thread starter rangur1
- Start date
The dark abyss of slug assist.
How many slug shots do you get out of your HPx? I know Mike designs the slug versions to be tethered
Upvote 0
Plus one.
I handload for my 22 K-Hornet. My favorite load pushes a 40 gr Hornady boatail around 2800 FPS. That load will shoot well under 2 MOA at 400 yards, which is about max for the rifle on GHs on a windy day.
I use the tool that best fits the task. I would never take a rimfire into the woods to hunt squirrels for the exact same reason I would not take some slugger into the woods for squirrels. Safety first.
But I'd say slugs in a silenced air rifle for ground squirrels and such under a couple hundred yards would be a fine ticket for pesting.
Upvote 0
I shoot in my gun club only, a little bit of 50 Meters but only if the 100M way too crowded. Usually the 22LR 100M is empty most of the time so that is my favourite spot. We have also 200M and 400M ranges but I need to grow there both with my equipment also training my mind.
Last season I was shooting my .25 Impact MK2 with 34gr JSB MK2's, and seeing the euphoria going towards slugs I made some agressive changes to my gun, finished the very last mods this winter.
Yesterday I wanted to tune for 37gr, 41gr, 44gr, 46gr slugs but only got finished two sizes. The main interest was how much of a MAX power I have for disposal and adjust/tune from there.
I was coming downwards on the Reg how I left it last year @ 150, with my mods I still had about 2mm on the HS at Max on the wheel. Here are my numbers:
- 150 bar - 41gr - 1011 fps;
- 150 bar - 37gr - 1039 fps;
- 120 bar - 37gr - 970 fps, and here I tightened the VS...
- 120 bar - 37gr - 950 fps. Measured the HS and wrote down the number.
And I realized, that the HS had almost no tension anymore un-cocked... this means...
- if I don't want to bang up the new HS wheel (as I did last year several times that I could not turn it smooth anymore)...
- and without taking the Impact a part again to soften the springs inside...
I cannot shoot lighter projectiles with this gun ... especially not my new arrival MK1 and MK2 pellets !!!
Now I finally realized WHY you folks have dedicated slug guns and pellet guns ... because in my case without a bigger workaround I cannot make it shoot both in a single day.
Last season I was shooting my .25 Impact MK2 with 34gr JSB MK2's, and seeing the euphoria going towards slugs I made some agressive changes to my gun, finished the very last mods this winter.
Yesterday I wanted to tune for 37gr, 41gr, 44gr, 46gr slugs but only got finished two sizes. The main interest was how much of a MAX power I have for disposal and adjust/tune from there.
I was coming downwards on the Reg how I left it last year @ 150, with my mods I still had about 2mm on the HS at Max on the wheel. Here are my numbers:
- 150 bar - 41gr - 1011 fps;
- 150 bar - 37gr - 1039 fps;
- 120 bar - 37gr - 970 fps, and here I tightened the VS...
- 120 bar - 37gr - 950 fps. Measured the HS and wrote down the number.
And I realized, that the HS had almost no tension anymore un-cocked... this means...
- if I don't want to bang up the new HS wheel (as I did last year several times that I could not turn it smooth anymore)...
- and without taking the Impact a part again to soften the springs inside...
I cannot shoot lighter projectiles with this gun ... especially not my new arrival MK1 and MK2 pellets !!!
Now I finally realized WHY you folks have dedicated slug guns and pellet guns ... because in my case without a bigger workaround I cannot make it shoot both in a single day.
Upvote 0
https://youtu.be/m8j9yagbXVA
This explains some of why tuning for slugs can be so frustrating.
This explains some of why tuning for slugs can be so frustrating.
Upvote 0
I try not to make shooting slugs complicated. I generally hunt with my airguns and all of my PCP's digest slugs. I purchase a sample pack from NSA in the caliber I need and then test each for hunting accuracy and downrange power. Whichever slug works best for my application wins. So far this process hasn't let me down.
I don't want to lose the good or even excellent, for the perfect.
I don't want to lose the good or even excellent, for the perfect.
Upvote 0
Hey Centercut, thanks for your shooting acumen.
I'm shooting RAW HM1000x's in .22 & .25 caliber up to 100 yards in target shooting. Don't hunt or intend to ....
So your saying, "JSB 18.13, 25.34 & 34.95 pellets will outperform most - if not all slugs at 100 yards or less" and hence don't waste your time?
- And if I do try shooting slugs, I can't expect mixed results - at best?
- And the tune required for slugs will be all-together different that my JSB pellet set-ups - causing further headache if I try to go back to pellets?
Any comments are appreciated,
Kirk
Upvote 0
What I figure that jumping between pellets and slugs became tiring re-tuning there and back, and me personally I will leave it on a single platform from now going on. You will have to learn it yourself 
Upvote 0
Yes., especially high(er) BC pellets like the .22 RD Monsters, the .25 Heavy, the .30 JSB Exact, and the .20 JSB Exact Heavy. Those pellets have a high enough BC that out to 100 yards you more than likely won't get much of an advantage shooting slugs.
Yes, you won't be using the same tune for pellets as for slugs from the same gun. Its easiest (and most guys do this) to have separate gun for pellets and slugs. I know I have two guns that I solely shoot slugs from and then a handful that I use for pellets. Getting that perfect tune with slugs take time and patience, and switching around between the two would be time consuming and frustrating at best...
Upvote 0
What BC can I expect from the .22 Monster RD's? At what MV's?
(It would be helpful to know how the BC was determined.)
Matthias
Upvote 0
SpiralGrove,
Bob Sterne rocks.
This article, though, is not from him.
And the article in HAM says the BC is 0.039 for the Monster RD. And that's not very high..... Compared to slugs.....
Thinking of the HAM data, that's exactly why I was asking.....
Thanks, Steve, for the 0.051 number. That would be an attractive BC to invest the extra air / shot count and required tuning.
And I know I can trust your data. Appreciate it!
Matthias
Bob Sterne rocks.
This article, though, is not from him.
And the article in HAM says the BC is 0.039 for the Monster RD. And that's not very high..... Compared to slugs.....
Thinking of the HAM data, that's exactly why I was asking.....
Thanks, Steve, for the 0.051 number. That would be an attractive BC to invest the extra air / shot count and required tuning.
And I know I can trust your data. Appreciate it!
Matthias
Upvote 0