Some RAW questions, looking to purchase

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Hooper

Hooper

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Hi All, 

I am interested in buying a RAW1000x LRT and just curious on some thoughts about it from owners. They are beautiful guns and American made which definitely peaks my interest. I currently don't have a true bench gun. I like to hunt thus have my FX Impact .22 and my R5M Matador .25 more as hunting rifles then plinking. I want a gun that is great to punch paper but also can be used to take the chipmunks and squirrels out as well, not to mention the pest birds. 

How do you guys like your RAW's and are they worth the price tag? 

I think i would prefer a .22 but if the accuracy isn't up to the .25 is it worth getting in .22? 

I know from review there is a bark to these guns, does a .22 bark significantly less that a .25? 

would you purchase the RAW over other guns such as the Crown, or other higher end guns? 

Thanks for the info all! Not a small chunk of change so I just want to make sure I get it right....


 
I have owned one for about three weeks. I ordered it through Ken Hicks at Southern Precision Air Weapons, and given my experience, that is the only way to go. His personal knowledge of all of the higher end platforms as a shooter brings tremendous added value to the experience, plus having him check it out and fine tune it in all regards before shipping, at no additional cost, at least in mind mind, takes much of the risk out of such a significant purchase.

Mine is an LRT in the older stock featuring the wood trigger guard. You can find a few posts of it that I have made on this forum over the last couple of weeks. It is in .25 and tuned for the 33.95 JSB pellet, shooting them at an average of 890 fps with a standard deviation of 3 fps, and over 40 shots straight out of the tin, a maximum deviation of 11 fps. It is absolutely deadly out to 100 yards and seems to buck the wind very well. As I have not shot a .22 of this quality, I can't really compare, but given the JSB 18.34 grain pellet seems to do best at about 940 out of my AA S510 .22, unless one would go to the new heavier .22 pellet, I can't image that more power is desired for a the 18.4 grain and less weight pellets. My guess is that this is why so many of the RAWs are being purchased in .25 and .30.

The only thing I have had to do to mine is to adjust the trigger. It was so light that one would seemingly set it off when the finger is just approaching it.

Finally, I was very pleased at how quiet this rifle really is, even at 58 ft lbs. The sound of the pellet hitting the steel spinner is considerably louder than the report itself, which I don't find to be offensive in my back yard at all.

Good luck....
 
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I have owned one for about three weeks. I ordered it through Ken Hicks at Southern Precision Air Weapons, and given my experience, that is the only way to go. His personal knowledge of all of the higher end platforms as a shooter brings tremendous added value to the experience, plus having him check it out and fine tune it in all regards before shipping, at no additional cost, at least in mind mind, takes much of the risk out of such a significant purchase.

Mine is an LRT in the older stock featuring the wood trigger guard. You can find a few posts of it that I have made on this forum over the last couple of weeks. It is in .25 and tuned for the 33.95 JSB pellet, shooting them at an average of 890 fps with a standard deviation of 3 fps, and over 40 shots straight out of the tin, a maximum deviation of 11 fps. It is absolutely deadly out to 100 yards and seems to buck the wind very well. As I have not shot a .22 of this quality, I can't really compare, but given the JSB 18.34 grain pellet seems to do best at about 940 out of my AA S510 .22, unless one would go to the new heavier .22 pellet, I can't image that more power is desired for a the 18.4 grain and less weight pellets. My guess is that this is why so many of the RAWs are being purchased in .25 and .30.

The only thing I have had to do to mine is to adjust the trigger. It was so light that one would seemingly set it off when the finger is just approaching it.

Finally, I was very pleased at how quiet this rifle really is, even at 58 ft lbs. The sound of the pellet hitting the steel spinner is considerably louder than the report itself, which I don't find to be offensive in my back yard at all.

Good luck....
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RAW rifles are top notch in every way. I’d have no hesitation about getting one in .22 for JSB 18.1 or 21.1 Kodiaks. I haven’t tried the heavier .22 JSB but I know Martin can set your RAW .22 at 50 fpe to shoot them very well.

If you want it quieter just have Martin tune it with a Hugget or whatever you like. If you want an ultimate full shroud & best accuracy possible PM me for Alan Zasadny’s phone number. 


 
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The new HM1000X .22s are designed around the Redesigned monster JSBs. They shoot them at 50fpe. I would definitely buy the .22 over the .25 seeing how well those pellets perform but that's just me. I've had a few .25s (different guns) that I wasn't completely impressed with or maybe the pellets weren't consistent idk but I've been turned off of .25 for the most part now. Really though with a gun like that and ordered through Ken at SPAW you really can't go wrong with either the .22 or .25!
 
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Over the years, I've owned six of them and now down to three: two .177s for FT and BR competition and a .25 LRT. I sold the two 22s I had plus the .30 cal. The .22s are ok, but the .25 is better and good for larger game if you wish. The .30 is too expensive to shoot and the trajectory falls off quickly past 75 yards. For birds and squirrels, why not a .177 with a poly barrel? You can use 13 gr pellets that would be pretty deadly, and would reach out well too. Here's what my 25 can do at 100 yards. 10 shots at just a teeny weeny bit less than 1 inch.

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Over the years, I've owned six of them and now down to three: two .177s for FT and BR competition and a .25 LRT. I sold the two 22s I had plus the .30 cal. The .22s are ok, but the .25 is better and good for larger game if you wish. The .30 is too expensive to shoot and the trajectory falls off quickly past 75 yards. For birds and squirrels, why not a .177 with a poly barrel? You can use 13 gr pellets that would be pretty deadly, and would reach out well too. Here's what my 25 can do at 100 yards. 10 shots at just a teeny weeny bit less than 1 inch.

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Which rifle do you use for FT?
 
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Thanks all for the quick responses. Based on what I am reading the RAW wont disappoint! 

.177 isn't out of the question but if I am doing any sort of long range pesting then I want to be humane about it as well. I am starting to have a woodchuck issue on my hunting property as well, so want to make sure the caliber is up to par for that. 

I like the idea of the .22 with the heavier JSB as well as seend some videos on polymags and slugs. But like some say the .25 can handle a little more wind and by the looks of it are very accurate (most reviews and videos out there are with the .25)

Really appreciate all your feedback! Great group of people on the website! 
 
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I suppose that I'm qualified to answer.

Pro's:

  • High quality
  • Dead simple design
  • Great barrel, free floating - yet well secured (and easily removable for cleaning)
  • High powered
  • M-lok rail in stock is excellent

Con's:

  • Heavy stock, heavy rifle. It's tough to shoot free standing
  • Loud - it barks, DonnyFL or Ken Hicks can provide solutions to mitigate though 
  • Regulator adjustment isn't easy to access, you'll need spare bottle o-rings on hand if you're a tinkerer / tuner type
  • Laminate material is fairly delicate, anodized action isn't as heavy as I would have liked (but meets / exceeds that of FX)

I would say that if you're the type of person that is fine with shooting heavy pellets / the pellets that the rifle was tuned for, go for it. You won't have to touch anything out of the box. If you're into tuning the power up and down significantly, it can be done - but it's not trivial to do it on the reg side. You may get 15-30fps if fine tuning adjustment from the hammer spring tension though, anything higher or lower on the power side requires adjusting reg pressure.

Ken Hicks would be the person to buy from. None of the other vendors that sell them (that I'm aware of) are going to offer up much in the way of support for tuning.

If you like shooting from the standing position, you're going to find it difficult to hold for an extended period of time. It's a beast, you'll want to use a bipod, "sticks", or rig up a sling for some support.

Power potential is superb with my new .25. Without the need of unicorn parts, my rifle can shoot 25gr JSBs over 1100fps and 34gr JSBs / 34gr slugs at 1000fps - not that you'd want to do that, but the door is open to finding heavier ammo for long range hunting and target shooting.

Feel free to PM me with any questions, I'll shoot you straight.
 
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.22 all the way !!! .... far more GREAT pellets to choose from than .25, less costly too.

While some will praise the .25 others will not and stay with or have gone back to .22 cal .... self included.



Don't over look .20 caliber either, they make for a FANTASTIC Small game hunting / Field target gun & JSB's shoot lights out accurate !!
 
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Over the years, I've owned six of them and now down to three: two .177s for FT and BR competition and a .25 LRT. I sold the two 22s I had plus the .30 cal. The .22s are ok, but the .25 is better and good for larger game if you wish. The .30 is too expensive to shoot and the trajectory falls off quickly past 75 yards. For birds and squirrels, why not a .177 with a poly barrel? You can use 13 gr pellets that would be pretty deadly, and would reach out well too. Here's what my 25 can do at 100 yards. 10 shots at just a teeny weeny bit less than 1 inch.

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Which rifle do you use for FT?
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HM1000.
 
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Thanks all for the quick responses. Based on what I am reading the RAW wont disappoint! 

.177 isn't out of the question but if I am doing any sort of long range pesting then I want to be humane about it as well. I am starting to have a woodchuck issue on my hunting property as well, so want to make sure the caliber is up to par for that. 

I like the idea of the .22 with the heavier JSB as well as seend some videos on polymags and slugs. But like some say the .25 can handle a little more wind and by the looks of it are very accurate (most reviews and videos out there are with the .25)

Really appreciate all your feedback! Great group of people on the website!
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If you are considering hunting woodchucks, then IMO, the .25 is a must. Those are tough critters. I've hunted them for years. 22 LR is barely adequate up to 75 yards then I switched to a centerfire gun for clean kills at longer ranges. I nailed a large armadillo with my 25 at 50 yards and I'm glad I didn't have anything lighter.
 
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Hooper,

I only own one Rapid Air Weapons TM 1000 for Field Target in .177 @ 12 ft Lbs, but can attest, quality wise, it's the best bang for the buck. I have other FT guns comparable in price, and well more, but the RAW will outshoot them all. Whatever caliber you choose, the quality will be the same, you will NOT be disappointed. Relatively easy gun to work on down the road, if repairs ( usually o rings, or just a sticky valve that needs to be cleaned) need to be done. I've got an earlier generation, so I've had mine for about 6 years. In fact, my valve was stuck, and just finished up cleaning it, works fine. User friendly gun to fix, do it yourself, that's why Martin Rutterford designed it the way he did.

Tom Holland 

Field Target Tech 
 
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When I finally decided to invest in what I considered my dream/ideal field target rifle, here were my priorities- 1) A stiff, completely free-floating barrel devoid of muzzle gizmos, 2) WELL-anchored into a SOLID receiver, 3) SIMPLE, serviceable, parts available 4) Walnut stock, 5) Side-lever (preferred) single-shot action. 

Besides RAW meeting all my requisites, the fact it's American made by nice folks was a HUGE bonus. Martin and company went beyond the call of duty to produce my dream FT rifle, and my TM1000 is the last FT rifle I'll ever buy. BTW, when it needed a stock refinish (from abuse) and internal overhaul (from hours of shooting in a downpour), I sent it back to the U.S. manufacturer for the quick, excellent, reasonably-priced, and quick turn-around work.

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I have a HM1000X in 30 cal with Red/Gray lam thumbhole stock with rail on front. Gun is wicked accurate out past 100 yards, shoots the JSB 44.75 gr at over 75 foot pounds and get around 40 shots from a 250 bar fill. Only drawback is the .30 cal pellets are expensive, you only get 150 in a tin compared to 350 in .25 cal. or 300 count of the 34 gr.
 
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