I really had very good luck today shooting off the pillows. They made for a surprisingly stable rest. I was shooting some of my most powerful and hold sensitive rifles and I didn't have to do any cherry picking to get those groups. The only one that didn't shoot well was my Springfield Armory M1A replica and that thing has been a twangy, shotgun grouping POS from day 1.
It was designed for the sole purpose of measuring the linear recoil on springers. I would doubt it would have been a tool you would want to set up for bench shooting. For that type of use I would have built it a bit differently.
That is really interesting and is somewhat along the lines of what I was originally thinking. My idea was more along the lines of clamping the rifle into a sled that could recoil freely on roller bearings. It looks like yours is more intended to slide on delrin rails that are bolted to the rifle.Heres my post on "Free Floating Springer forearm"...might give you some ideas.Pete
Tuning - Free floating Springer Forearm
Thought I'd show these pics again for anyone wanting to wring out every bit of accuracy with your break barrel or under lever gun. I put on Air rifle Matches for four years till they pittered out...to bad. we had some good times.I got a lot of guys into shooting the 300 S for the springer...www.airgunnation.com
On that note I should make a 3” square foreend that fits on my one piece rest. There is almost zero friction with the roller bearing top.
No problem. But you did set yourself up. You have to admit your post was just a little squirrely. Have a sense of humor, Bob
This is it exactly. You can waste a ton of time and ammo trying to determine what pellets a gun shoots best when your own error opens every other group up 1/2" and you're not sure which is which, so you just repeat the process until you feel somewhat confident. Then there are the times when the groups are disappointing and you think you must be doing something wrong, but you just can't figure out what.
But heck, that would relieve all the stress and anxiety spring guns can bring on. Kinda like women. You know the old saying.......
Mamma don’t allow that
It would be nice. But its a pipe dream for springers. You're not getting consistency strapping any springer down to anything. I do a lot of PB shooting and know lots of hunter's that bought into the concept lead sleds to zero their rifles. They usually surprised by either how hard it is to get decent accuracy on the sled or how far off their zero is when they shoot the rifle normally. If they don't even work well for 3000fps rifles that the bullet clears the barrel much faster than a 900fps pellet. They're not going work on a piston gun. Recoil must be dealt with in the fashion the rifle will be used. I might add lead sled and other devices that fix rifles in place are harder on optics because recoil energy has to go somewhere. Basically rifles strapped and held in place rattle then selves apart faster.
the picture i got in my head reading this was at a Bench Rest competition HAHAHAHAHA thanks !
The way I see it is that recoil management needs to be incorporated into the design to basically replicate a human firing the gun.
That would be good to have. Sometimes if I'm sorting accuracy issues and I think I may be the weak link I'll switch to a known consistent rifle or ask someone else to shoot the questionable rifle.
I'd try the pillow technique. I haven't experimented with it much yet, but I was sure shooting nice groups with a couple of spring piston hammers and just resting the full length of the stock from the front of the forearm to the pistol grip was surprisingly stable. It might have looked a bit less so had I had more than 12x magnification though.My results have been inconsistent, to say the least.
I almost posted the question.
Am I really a good shot or just an incredible luck shot?
Frustration followed by clearing the marksman target at 75 yards. Followed by I can't hit a 1 3/4" Crazy Eight, but then again the wind has been quite formidable foe, and I haven't been using my anti cant device. Cant or windage shouldn't cause my shots to drop low, or high, only L or R, though.
My worst shots are the ones that are hard to get lined up in the first place, forcing and holding the alignment for the shot.
Forcing the aim up or down to line up, along with cheek and shoulder weld, are what I consider elevation issues.
I've tried the forward rest close to the balance point, and didn't getaway real change.
So, I was hoping for an article by someone who has been studying and getting results at benchrest springer class shooting.
I use a very plush roller (probably time for me to replace this one). This arrangement works very well for me.Man! Is that deluxe or what? Nice craftsmanshipI too am one of those guys that like to take me out of the equation as much as possible. Especially when making a change to ammo or optics.
Here is a device I copied off of pictures posted on the internet. the original poster did not give any measurements, so based on knowing the paint roller was 4 inches across, I guesstimated the rest of the measurements. If I made another one I would make it shorter. For the benches I use I really didn't need something this tall. And I have seen simpler arrangements that accomplish the same thing. The roller moves very smoothly on a .25 in steel rod. Infact I have to be very careful because if I get the center of gravity too far back and let go the gun will easily roll off the rest and on to the floor. almost happed a couple of times
I also have a Caldwell Led Sled, which is great for powder burners, but have not tried it with any of my springers for fear of the sharp jolt ruining a scope.
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Red Neck for sureThis is my set up for this winter during the cold. I put my forehand on the rest in a loose artillery hold. I’m sitting on a five gallon bucket with a foam seat I made. Works really well shooting from my shed at my 32 yard range.
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