just what is the difference between the actual shooting experience with a springer and a gas piston ?
springer or gas piston ?
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A well tuned Wire Spring will out last any of the Gas Springs.
Shooting them is not much different.
Shooting them is not much different.
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Gas ram are better than OEM springers, but its now universally accepted that tuning kit springers are better than Gas ram…not so snappy, can be tailor tuned to suit pellet type and cheaper to fix when something goes tilt.
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In my experience the difference when shooting is. most spring guns produce a buzz or twang when fired from the coil oscillations, a gas ram never dose that so you just get a solid "thwack" every time you fire. Likewise when cocking on most of my spring guns I can feel the coils rubbing during compression and get a "clink clink clink" sensation, the gas ram guns just make a smooth "hiss" during the cocking cycle.
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What spring guns do you have? I see what appears to be a 48 and a B3 in your profile banner. The B3 I'm not suprised you can feel the spring but the 48 I am.
HW 77, Diana 48, Air Venturi TR5, Gamo Swam Maxim, B3, Crossman Nitro, and a Gamo CFX with g4 trigger.
Diana 48 has the smoothest spring, surprisingly the HW has a strong buzz.
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That sounds about right then. My 48 is unbelievably smooth. I hated the sidelever at first but quickly grew to appreciate it. I dont have a 77 but I do have 2x 97s and yes, buzzy they were. I actually kind of liked the buzz (gone now thanks to Vortek) but the only HW that was annoyingly buzzy to my ear was my .20 HW95. I couldn't make a new guide for that gun fast enough haha. I haven't had any cocking lever on spring issues on any of them though. My Ruger Air Hawk on the other hand
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I have read that a large dob of thick Molly grease will dampen the HW buzz, but I've yet to try it.
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An ARH Hornet spring will fit the factory HW guide perfectly and only runs $20 fyi. You may need to sand the guide down ever so slightly but it will tap on with a rubber mallet and eliminate all buzz.
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Thanks , i was wondering is all . I have a HW 35 untuned as yet
HW97k tuned @ 11.6 FPE
FWB 600
Morini 162IE
Diana 54
and soon AA S510
HW97k tuned @ 11.6 FPE
FWB 600
Morini 162IE
Diana 54
and soon AA S510
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no , a small dot in between all the coils opposite sides of the spring is all that is needed i used tune in a tube . worked well
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Using the OEM Wire Spring and doing some tuning? You can get some great results!
A properly made Guide and a few other things? No mud grease needs added.
A properly made Guide and a few other things? No mud grease needs added.
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The best investment I've made in this game was dropping $1200 on a cheap lathe setup. I've saved 20s of dollars so far!
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I had a Hatsan 105 Torpedo 22cal.gas piston.
very stiff to cock and it broke every scope I put on it. Could'nt hit squat with it. I sent it back. I shoot hw springers and PCPs now
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very stiff to cock and it broke every scope I put on it. Could'nt hit squat with it. I sent it back. I shoot hw springers and PCPs now
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This rammer is going strong after 34years. I shot it more the first 10 years. Not as much any more. But still love too. Never been opened up. Shooting 17 ft lb in 177
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I have several each BSA and Webley springers that do not twang untuned. Weihrauch could easily produce twang free guns if they wanted too.
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My two break barrels are an R9 in .177 and a Benji Trail Nitro Piston (NP2) in .22
I think the R9 is well broken in by now and I really don't feel any for certain springy stuff when I cock it. Definetly know it's a springer when I shoot it though. The Benji is silk smooth on cocking and has always been. On firing It definitely has more recoil than the R9, just a single hard thudd. At my current skill level I find them equally accurate. Regards
I think the R9 is well broken in by now and I really don't feel any for certain springy stuff when I cock it. Definetly know it's a springer when I shoot it though. The Benji is silk smooth on cocking and has always been. On firing It definitely has more recoil than the R9, just a single hard thudd. At my current skill level I find them equally accurate. Regards
Weihrauchs inability to fit a proper guide baffles me. What is their reasoning behind it? Even my $99 Hatsan 95 has a snug fitting guide...
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That is exactly what I did. I was getting a buzz when firing one of my HW95s. I took the rifle apart and found the piston spring to be broken. I put ARH springs on both my HW95s because the factory spring on my other 95 was broken as well. I used a dremel to take a little material off the guides and installed the springs. No more buzz, nice smooth shot cycle.
My HW rifles have been great but I've never been enamoured with the OEM springs. I've never tried a gas piston. Maybe some day.
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