Tuning Super Lube silicon oil, replacement for RWS Chamber oil?

[Racer-X]

I came across this Super Lube Silicon oil while googling (-58°F to 392°F (-50°C to 200°C):
https://www.super-lube.com/Content/...nts/TDS/Technical_Data_Sheet_Silicone_Oil.pdf

It comes in 4oz. bottles:
part#
56104 4 oz. Bottle – 100 cSt $15.07 ($1.88 per Ounce [Amazon])
56304 4 oz. Bottle – 350 cSt
56404 4 oz. Bottle – 1000 cSt
56504 4 oz. Bottle – 5000 cSt

Would this oil be a good alternative to RWS Chamber lube, $23.49 ($46.98 per Ounce)
https://www.amazon.com/RWS-Chamber-Lube-Needle-0-5-Ounce/dp/B00H7KZJO8/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1GUI1G16NQCUH&keywords=rws+chamber+oil&qid=1696540335&sprefix=rws+cham%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-2

Or should I just buy this 2 oz. bottle of CLENZOIL Airsoft Oil? (-85°F to 450°F) I am enticed by the smaller applicator bottle with it's nice nozzle $14.99 ($7.49 per Ounce).
https://www.amazon.com/CLENZOIL-Airsoft-Silicone-Chamber-Lubricant/dp/B0C1P9GZZR/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1GUI1G16NQCUH&keywords=rws+chamber+oil&qid=1696540827&sprefix=rws+cham%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

 

[MikeVV]

All...silicone oils currently come from one of two locations.
They in turn sell to other companies.
These other companies use various thickeners to thicken the base silicone to meet their viscosity requirement.

I've heard of no one that's actually done any scientific testing (outside the main companies) on the two base oils to see if either have any different lubricity properties, prior to the addition of thickeners. Or, after thickeners for that matter.

All this said. if you are a fan-boy of one brand, stick with it. Otherwise, I'd buy the least expensive brand.

Mike

 

[uladz]

I never buy any of the "brand" stuff, you are just paying 2-3x more for the brand name itself. Super Lube 56104 works great. I also use Super Lube 56204 O-Ring Silicone Lubricant, Clear https://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-56204-Silicone-Lubricant/dp/B07C3CZ9CL/.

 

[Racer-X]

I never buy any of the "brand" stuff, you are just paying 2-3x more for the brand name itself. Super Lube 56104 works great. I also use Super Lube 56204 O-Ring Silicone Lubricant, Clear https://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-56204-Silicone-Lubricant/dp/B07C3CZ9CL/.

Thank you, that's what i'm looking for actual user feedback on what they have used in their own Airguns.
I get it Silicone is an oligopoly just like Aluminum, Alcon and Reynolds now Alcoa are the 2 Mfg of aluminum in the USA.

 

[KatoKevin454]

I use R/C car/Truck Shock oil, team Losi, Team Associated, what ever is cheap, it's 100% silicone oil, you can get it in different weights/thickness, and it works, cheap too.

https://www.amazon.com/Team-Losi-Silicone-Shock-Oil/dp/B00B4C88Z2/ref=sr_1_4?crid=I66PD6F2GWMI&keywords=silicone+shock+oil&qid=1696608403&sprefix=silicone+shock+oil%2Caps%2C110&sr=8-4

 

[Chris_K]

What are you going to use this oil for, or more specifically on what and where?

I bought Super Lube 60-weight silicone oil to lube my hand pump and to dampen air pressure gauges on the pump and my compressor. I could see using it as an O-ring lubricant during assembly.

For springers (I know this is the PCP forum), chamber lube fell out of favor because it still diesels in the compression chambers. High moly content grease is the preferred piston seal lube now, and it lasts a long time.

 

[Racer-X]

What are you going to use this oil for, or more specifically on what and where?

I bought Super Lube 60-weight silicone oil to lube my hand pump and to dampen air pressure gauges on the pump and my compressor. I could see using it as an O-ring lubricant during assembly.

For springers (I know this is the PCP forum), chamber lube fell out of favor because it still diesels in the compression chambers. High moly content grease is the preferred piston seal lube now, and it lasts a long time.

I was going to use it on a springer piston seal.

 

[Bocephus]

Unless the seal is leather, it needs no oil.

 

[PEP3]

I was going to use it on a springer piston seal.

A little bit of moly on the outside of the seal, where it slides in the compression tube. The only thing I use silicon oil for is my HW40, I put 2 drops in the chamber every couple thousand shots to keep the valve seals from dry rotting. They are deep down inside the gun and real pia to replace.

 

[Chris_K]

I was going to use it on a springer piston seal.

If it's a synthetic piston seal then Air Rifle Headquarters sells their moly paste, it's like 70% moly. It's expensive but a jar will last a lifetime. I used it on my springers, and on the break barrel pivot washers. It's good stuff, a little goes along way. But you need to take the gun apart to apply it to the piston seal (i.e., will probably need a spring compressor).

You could still try the silicone oil but it really doesn't distribute well when you add drops to the compression bore, aside from dieseling issues.