Taipan Taipan Veteran 2 Tactical 550mm .22

[tommyb]

So speed was 915fps with 20.83gr pellets. Maxed out HS is 930fps. I would need the stronger spring to increase FPS or add shims. Monster Lights are definitely winners right now. The KO MK2s and AEA JTS 22gr aren't looking great. Not sure where all my other slugs went but can't find any. Will need to order more to try some. Probably H&Ns. Weird thing though the Slugs were only going 795fps. That's a massive loss from a 22gr pellet at 915fps. There .217 so either too small and getting blow by or too big. My guess would be too small. I'll probably pull the barrel and slug it and see what I'm working with.

Hi Dillon

See that you’re making good progress with the new Vet .22. Looking forward to seeing how she likes the NSA 20g slugs!

Re. JSB Monster Lights 20.83g.

As an aside, here is a different rifle and slower velocity, but here’s another testimonial for the heavier pellet brigade for .22 cal in the 30-35FPE range. The JSB 15.89 and 18.1g were my ‘go to’ pellets for the FX Royale 400 .22 Smooth Twist. But, the “lights” are proving to be very accurate for my regular 30y Target Challenge.

Here’s a link:

30-Yard Challenge

Hi Guys, It warmed up enough for me to do some tuning on my NW Crown with the 500mm barrel in .22. I haven't shot that barrel in a while and all my tunes were for much warmer weather. It took about 4 magazines to settle in on a tune which was giving me 3/8in 5 -shot groups at 30 yds. As the...

www.airgunnation.com

 

[Dairyboy]

Hi Dillon

See that you’re making good progress with the new Vet .22. Looking forward to seeing how she likes the NSA 20g slugs!

Re. JSB Monster Lights 20.83g.

As an aside, here is a different rifle and slower velocity, but here’s another testimonial for the heavier pellet brigade for .22 cal in the 30-35FPE range. The JSB 15.89 and 18.1g were my ‘go to’ pellets for the FX Royale 400 .22 Smooth Twist. But, the “lights” are proving to be very accurate for my regular 30y Target Challenge.

Here’s a link:

30-Yard Challenge

Hi Guys, It warmed up enough for me to do some tuning on my NW Crown with the 500mm barrel in .22. I haven't shot that barrel in a while and all my tunes were for much warmer weather. It took about 4 magazines to settle in on a tune which was giving me 3/8in 5 -shot groups at 30 yds. As the...

www.airgunnation.com

Hey Tommy, yeah I'm really liking how they are shooting in this gun. I need to try them in my Vet Long as that is shooting the 18gr JTS at 920fps I'd expect around 870-880fps with these Lights. It should be a very good pellet for it also. Might be it's favorite? But the JTS average well under sub MOA at 50yds through that gun so hard to beat.

I too am looking forward to trying the slugs in the Vet2. Who knows if it shoots them as good as pellets ill likely leave it setup for slugs. But happy these Lights shoot really good out of it in case they dont.

 

[Dairyboy]

Nothing to write home about with the RMR slapper seconds. Did shoot some MOA groups but most 1.5-2MOA. I'll likely use them up for 50yd pesting but won't buy them again.

 

[PumaCarl]

Nothing to write home about with the RMR slapper seconds. Did shoot some MOA groups but most 1.5-2MOA. I'll likely use them up for 50yd pesting but won't buy them again.

Are you trying different speeds with all your tests? I usually only do that a lot when I find one that is looking good at wherever ever I start, but I was thinking that I might be screwing myself doing that. I am going to do a slow to fast with the NSA 24,8gr .2175, hopefully tomorrow, and see what happens. I think I am missing a node, or starting on a bad one.

 

[Dairyboy]

Are you trying different speeds with all your tests? I usually only do that a lot when I find one that is looking good at wherever ever I start, but I was thinking that I might be screwing myself doing that. I am going to do a slow to fast with the NSA 24,8gr .2175, hopefully tomorrow, and see what happens. I think I am missing a node, or starting on a bad one.

I did try some different speeds. They were shooting around 865fps which was OK faster didnt do better, actually did best around 800fps but pretty slow for what i want. 825fps was decent also. My VK come in today which I've had great luck with in the past so we'll see how they do with them.

 

[PumaCarl]

I did try some different speeds. They were shooting around 865fps which was OK faster didnt do better, actually did best around 800fps but pretty slow for what i want. 825fps was decent also. My VK come in today which I've had great luck with in the past so we'll see how they do with them.

With my gun they only started shooting ok at 920fps and 950fps. I don't need to say it but ymmv. This sport is such a meritocracy of effort.

 

[Dairyboy]

With my gun they only started shooting ok at 920fps and 950fps. I don't need to say it but ymmv. This sport is such a meritocracy of effort.

Yeah ill need to adjust reg and heavier hammer spring to bump them up anymore than they are. Dont think I want to mess with that. They are alittle too big for my barrel as like said topped out around 870fps where the VKs at 22gr were shooting low 900s.

 

[Dairyboy]

I'm realizing I don't think I have the patience to shoot slugs. Tried the VKs today and really they did pretty well but playing with speeds and would get some great groups then a random flyer. 1-2 out of every 10. Sucks cause the other 8 were very tight. Tried the 20.83gr pellets again to make sure it wasn't me and was just stacking them over and over. I'll try the new KOs when they arrive but if they don't do really good I'm just going to call it good and shoot the pellets as it does so good with them.

Tomorrow morning if it's not foggy like it was this morning I will be testing the BCs of the 20.83gr at 920fps out of the Vet2 compared to my Vet1 shooting the 18gr JTS at 920fps.

 

[MushroomPsyche]

I'm realizing I don't think I have the patience to shoot slugs. Tried the VKs today and really they did pretty well but playing with speeds and would get some great groups then a random flyer. 1-2 out of every 10. Sucks cause the other 8 were very tight. Tried the 20.83gr pellets again to make sure it wasn't me and was just stacking them over and over. I'll try the new KOs when they arrive but if they don't do really good I'm just going to call it good and shoot the pellets as it does so good with them.

That's why I posted a question in the past of how people can keep up with slugs... because even if you find one that your gun shoots well with, when you have to re-stock in the future, there is no guarantee that the current batch will still be the same as what you're trying to replenish. So it's back to square one trying different slugs again. Even if you put in a big order to stock up, there's no guarantee that they're all going to be in the same batch that tested well.

 

[tommyb]

I'm realizing I don't think I have the patience to shoot slugs. Tried the VKs today and really they did pretty well but playing with speeds and would get some great groups then a random flyer. 1-2 out of every 10. Sucks cause the other 8 were very tight. Tried the 20.83gr pellets again to make sure it wasn't me and was just stacking them over and over. I'll try the new KOs when they arrive but if they don't do really good I'm just going to call it good and shoot the pellets as it does so good with them.

Tomorrow morning if it's not foggy like it was this morning I will be testing the BCs of the 20.83gr at 920fps out of the Vet2 compared to my Vet1 shooting the 18gr JTS at 920fps.

Good luck with the testing this morning.

I got to wondering. Your “Vet 1” might also shoot the “lights” pretty well with your current JTS 18.1g 920 fps tune. I’m guessing velocity will be between 865-880 fps possibly. This 20.83 pellet might work well in the Vet 1 and could be our back up pellet choice. It’s nice to have a couple pellet choices for both rifles.

I’m guessing the Vet 2 ( currently at 915-920) with the 18.1g might be pretty hot at 950+

Keep us posted.

Tom

 

[Dairyboy]

Good luck with the testing this morning.

I got to wondering. Your “Vet 1” might also shoot the “lights” pretty well with your current JTS 18.1g 920 fps tune. I’m guessing velocity will be between 865-880 fps possibly. This 20.83 pellet might work well in the Vet 1 and could be our back up pellet choice. It’s nice to have a couple pellet choices for both rifles.

I’m guessing the Vet 2 ( currently at 915-920) with the 18.1g might be pretty hot at 950+

Keep us posted.

Tom

Yes I will need to try them for accuracy. I might try them later once it's light and see how they do. I agree it should put them in that sweet spot FPS range. Like said wouldn't hurt to have it as a backup pellet.

 

[igolfat8]

Yes I will need to try them for accuracy. I might try them later once it's light and see how they do. I agree it should put them in that sweet spot FPS range. Like said wouldn't hurt to have it as a backup pellet.

Or perhaps as a surprising primary pellet?

 

[Dairyboy]

So BC testing was a little disappointing. Based on my tests I come up with a .033 BC for the JTS 18gr and a .038 for the JSB 20.83gr. My Vet1 was shooting at 900fps average which makes sense being much colder now than when I set it up in the summer last year. My Vet2 at 920fps. Was hoping to be in the mid .04s but is what it is. It is a 15% increase in BC which for the 15% increase in weight makes sense. I guess if I really want the higher BC I need to go to the 25.4gr. Not sure i really want to though. Guess it wouldnt hurt to try.

 

[Dairyboy]

Or perhaps as a surprising primary pellet?

I'd be very shocked as it averages about .33" with the JTS 18gr at 50yds however it definitely could be a surprise and outperform it. Maybe at longer ranges it will outperform.

 

[PumaCarl]

So BC testing was a little disappointing. Based on my tests I come up with a .033 BC for the JTS 18gr and a .038 for the JSB 20.83gr. My Vet1 was shooting at 900fps average which makes sense being much colder now than when I set it up in the summer last year. My Vet2 at 920fps. Was hoping to be in the mid .04s but is what it is. It is a 15% increase in BC which for the 15% increase in weight makes sense. I guess if I really want the higher BC I need to go to the 25.4gr. Not sure i really want to though. Guess it wouldnt hurt to try.

This was why I was suggesting the testing on the AEA 21.9gr pellet. It is an anomaly with a BC only matched by the above 25gr pellets. CenterCut was getting crazy good numbers, in his tests. JTS weren't close.

I hear you, about pellets being a pain though, no kidding! This is a part of the sportt in the biggest need of a break through. The slugs themselves, or the consistency of the bores shooting them. Something. It stinks to always have to fall back on pellets. Though, lucky to be able to.

 

[Dairyboy]

This was why I was suggesting the testing on the AEA 21.9gr pellet. It is an anomaly with a BC only matched by the above 25gr pellets. CenterCut was getting crazy good numbers, in his tests. JTS weren't close.

I hear you, about pellets being a pain though, no kidding! This is a part of the sportt in the biggest need of a break through. The slugs themselves, or the consistency of the bores shooting them. Something. It stinks to always have to fall back on pellets. Though, lucky to be able to.

I'll be playing with them more to see what I can do. If I can get them to tighten up we'll be golden.

 

[Arzrover]

So BC testing was a little disappointing. Based on my tests I come up with a .033 BC for the JTS 18gr and a .038 for the JSB 20.83gr. My Vet1 was shooting at 900fps average which makes sense being much colder now than when I set it up in the summer last year. My Vet2 at 920fps. Was hoping to be in the mid .04s but is what it is. It is a 15% increase in BC which for the 15% increase in weight makes sense. I guess if I really want the higher BC I need to go to the 25.4gr. Not sure i really want to though. Guess it wouldnt hurt to try.

This is why we love our 20s... the 15.89s are barely below the MRD's, don't require a ton of air, and are just steady (so far) in consistency. They shoot quite well past 100 yards and if that's not enough, the 18.9 NSA's do quite well further out... very tough to beat...
The only 22s I shoot any more are light ones at lower power or MRD's for longer ranges...
@Franklink and I have measured the 15.89s repeatedly in the 0.049 to 0.051 area.
Bob

 

[Dairyboy]

This is why we love our 20s... the 15.89s are barely below the MRD's, don't require a ton of air, and are just steady (so far) in consistency. They shoot quite well past 100 yards and if that's not enough, the 18.9 NSA's do quite well further out... very tough to beat...
The only 22s I shoot any more are light ones at lower power or MRD's for longer ranges...
@Franklink and I have measured the 15.89s repeatedly in the 0.049 to 0.051 area.
Bob

Yeah I wish more manufacturers would make a .20 instead of them needing to be a custom barrel. I'd love a solid .20 PCP. The .20 caliber would fill my needs better than .22. 13.73gr for 50-60yds at 23fpe~, 15.89gr out to 100yds at 30fpe+ and the slugs at 35fpe+ for whatever would need be.

 

[Dairyboy]

Ok I think a change in plans here is what's going to happen. I think I'm going to shoot pellets with the Vet2 and maybe the Vet1 with slugs. Just shot these groups with them both. Top left is 10 shots with Vet2 with 20.83gr at 925fps. The 2 on the right are 5 shots with JTS 18gr at 975fps.

Bottom left is 10 shots with Vet1 with 20.83gr at whatever speed didn't test. But in the middle is 10 shots with VK 22gr and like before they did extremely well.

That's 2 Vets now that are capable of sub .25" groups with the JTS 18gr pellets. I love those things.

 

[Gr8Recreation]

Good collaboration. Appreciate you sharing the steps taken and good luck. This beats the crap that’s on TV. Haven’t watched TV in years…